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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][url][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking. [/quote]

You start by not letting people in.

To answer your other question,  having an American child is not a barrier to deportation. Thousands of immigrants with American children are getting deported every year. The anchor baby thing is a bunch of nonsense. Babies don’t anchor. [/quote]

You didn't answer the question. Does the baby get deported too? The American citizen child? [/quote]

Like everything else, it’s up to the parents. Take the child with them or leave with guardians here. Baby can stay, parents can’t. It happens every day.[/quote]

It also causes an enormous amount of trauma to a child. And even if your are okay with that, writ large it becomes a problem for society. Have you seen the stats on where kids from foster care end up?  Often not as productive members of society. [/quote]

Child can go with the parents.[/quote]

not if they're US citizens[/quote]

Why not? Thirty thousand US born children are deported with their undocumented parents every year, give or take.[/quote]

Sure they can go. But you can’t force them to. They are Us citizens. How many are left behind?[/quote]

Quite a few are left behind.  More than the number being deported.  Is it a sad situation? Sure.  But not every sad situation is for the government to resolve.  The parents are fully aware of this dilemma before procreating and they do it anyway.  Whose problem is it? Theirs. [/quote]

Except if a child is left behind, it is by a definition a problem the government has to solve. Why do you think DCFS exists?  Or are you letting a 4 year old wander around with not adult responsible for them?  Because, spoiler alert, that ends really badly for everyone. [/quote]

Spoiler alert: the [color=red]parents[/color] are letting their 4 year old wander around with no responsible adult caring for them.

How is pp causing that situation? [/quote]

Again— even if the parents are 100% to blame, they’ve been deported.  They are gone. And, you still have a 4 year old wandering around with no responsible adult. Do what do you do about it?  Not whose fault is it. Blaming others is easy. How do you solve it. [/quote]

Foster care.  Exactly how you solve it for children with incarcerated parents. [/quote]

1.  The foster care system can’t handle the kids it has. Better be prepared to pay up to massively upscale it. 
2.  The foster care system has abysmal results and does not have a track record of producing adults who make positive contributions to society. But I guess that’s another problem we can ignore now, and hand off to your kids. [/quote]

Look, if your solution aims to produce a McLean style childhood, then no, this cannot be done.  Sometimes one chooses from an array of unattractive options.  But don't pretend these solutions don't exist. Them's the breaks. I mean you're like someone with a cirrhotic liver demanding Olympic-caliber results.  Don't drink to oblivion is the answer.  [/quote]

I would prefer a solution that produces functional adults.  Not PhDs.  Just able to self support and not be a drain on society. [/quote]

Congratulations, so would we all. What’s your point? Kids abandoned on purpose by their illegal immigrant parents deserve better than the criminals in training already in foster care?

You sound terrible. Really. Calling foster kids criminals and drains on society. How many foster kids have you taken in? You want other people to do that. [/quote]

Point: ALL kids deserve a shot at being self sufficient adults. And foster kids aren’t criminals and drains on society.  But the foster care system produces adults who end up in jail and unable to support themselves.  And the system should be overhauled. But at a minimum, we shouldn’t further burden a system that has already failed.

Let’s pony up the money and manpower and make the system better for all though. 100% agree.

Foster care outcomes:

https://www.settothrive.org/blog/foster-care-education-statistics#:~:text=Which%20leads%20to%20our%20final,graduate%20with%20a%20college%20degree.

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You already called foster kids criminals, and drains on society. You are not a nice person and at the very least should recognize foster children do not want to be in foster care.

Any illegal immigrant choosing to leave their children in foster care are further hurting their kids. They are choosing that life for their babies, not us. [/quote]

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