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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Will she also do the majority of cooking, cleaning and household chores? Because your budget doesn't allow for a cleaning service or much takeout/restaurants.[/quote] You guys are trying to bait me, but it's not going to work. I'd expect we'd split cooking, laundry, etc. 50/50. Real cleaning we'll outsource - as frugal as I am, a monthly house cleaner is something I've always splurged on. Currently, it's only $90 for my condo and I know it will obviously be more in a house - we'll budget for that. Regarding parenting, I do expect she'd take the lead there. Yes, if I'm bringing most of the money to the marriage, I'd expect her to contribute in other ways. But, primarily, I'd expect her to do the majority of the parenting because I would only be attracted in the first place to a woman who is nurturing and would enjoy taking care of the kid(s). Similarly, I'd expect the lawn mowing to fall 100/0 to me since that's traditionally a male activity.[/quote] I almost laugh out loud because it is just so ridiculous. But it is also mean. I feel bad for future wife who has to do everything.[/quote] After saving a million dollars by her early 30s, which will STILL not measure up to his savings, so she'll be on the hook for the hard parts of parenting forever. But she'll like it, so no problem! This is just all so unreasonable. I do know women who always wanted to be a stay at home mom and primary parent. None of them stayed single until their 30s and saved a million dollars first. [/quote] Heaven forbid a woman actually wants to raise her children instead of being a corporate drone who does little or nothing for society.[/quote] There are Highly educated women who choose to do just that. I have two BS (T10 university) and a MS from a T20 university. When we decided to have kids, figured I'd work PT. Once kid arrived, I changed my mind and stayed home. Loved my time raising the kids and being very involved in their lives/school/volunteering/etc. Glad I choose the right partner to parent with so this was an option for our family[/quote] Most women would choose to do just that, but only few have a spouse who can earn enough to support a family in relative comfort. If your spouse were to earn enough for just very basic penny pinching life and you had to struggle would you stay home or go back to your well earning job? If your spouse had volatile career and income was uncertain would you SAH? If your spouse lost tons of money in the market (many do) or got ill and unable to earn well, or developed some addiction would you still be able to SAH? These are real issues people face all the time. I know some women who are wealthy SAHMs or are comfortable financially without constant stress and they acknowledge how lucky they are. It's akin to being a trust fund baby or winning a lottery because this lifestyle is becoming harder and harder to attain. [/quote] Women assess their mates based on their *future* earning potential unless they are really loaded. OP, you will be perceived by the women in affluent areas as being on a downward trajectory. I suggest moving or looking outside of UMC suburban enclaves or trendy urban areas. It may mean you are going to have to marry a woman of lower class whose standards are not developed in an affluence bubble or a woman of modest means who isn't a millionaire, but shares your values, is educated and will work with you helping to stretch ever dollar. You are going to need it as you get older, things aren't getting cheaper and investing well isn't something everyone can do. [/quote]
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