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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm still trying to get my head around the idea that anyone is okay with these people taking $2 million a year off the DC taxpayer in exchange for washing out 60 percent of the class. WTF[/quote]

I'm a lot more concerned about the DCPS schools passing students through despite truancy and being years behind grade level. [/quote]

Why? Some dude in Arizona isn't getting the fancy Audi off of that... I mean, if we're going to miseducate our kids, let's keep the money for Audis here in the district.

Also, to be slightly serious, what you're describing is failure of the system, and what I'm talking about is people seeing how close they can get the system to failure in the name of getting the fancy Audi. Profit should never be part of any conversation about education. [/quote]

BASIS DC is nonprofit, dummy.

Think of the millions that DCPS is spending on failing schools where most of the kids are illiterate and innumerate.

Let’s create another dozen BASIS schools in DC and stop pouring money into schools that don’t work.

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No. It's a for-profit charter. We've gone over this.

DC contracts with a non-profit organization which then turns around and pays the for-profit for administration and curriculum. The for-profit is the decision-making power in terms of what happens at the school. It's really gross. [/quote]

If DCPS put them out of business by offering a test-in, accelerated STEM school, I wouldn't be sad for a moment. But right now, this is who is interested in providing real math and science to my non-JR zoned kids. [/quote]

Yeah, I mean, if it gets it done for your kids, you should do it. But so many people going in look at those washout numbers and think “oh that won’t be my kid” but statistically, it will be. And it’s infuriating that BADIS administrators bring kids in and know that they can’t educate 60 percent of them, but don’t try to change their method or discourage the kids who aren’t going to make it.

They’re looking to get paid so they have to take kids in they have no intention or ability to get through to graduation and they convince a whole lot of parents that they’re going to help their kids when they won’t. It’s messed up. [/quote]

DP. Your post makes absolutely no sense. What are the "washout" numbers you keep referring to? Where are you getting that 60% of the kids aren't being educated? I have to assume you're referring to the attrition numbers which--to be clear--does not represent the number of kids who failed. The number of kids who don't pass the year-end comps is actually pretty small. But kids choose to leave for a number of reasons.

You also argue that the school isn't doing anything to "discourage" the kids who aren't going to make it...soooo, what would you have them do? Maybe require the students to take a year-end test that they have to pass in order to get promoted to the next grade? Oh wait...

What's actually messed up is the fact that DC has so many failing schools---schools that are allowed to remain open and take tax dollars yet less than 5% of the kids are at grade level! THAT's what you should be upset about. Those are the kids who aren't being educated. The stats suggest that the kids at BASIS are, in fact, getting an education.

I'm not suggesting that BASIS is perfect, and it sounds like it didn't work out for your child, but whatever ax you have to grind is getting in the way of facts.  [/quote]

Sixty percent of the kids who go in, don't graduate. That's not success. The fact that 40 percent are successful is dismal. It's good for those 40 percent, but it's an indictment of the school overall.

If it was a public school you'd call that a failing school. If it was a private school and only 40 percent of the kids who start make it to graduation people wouldn't send their kids.

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You are reading the data wrong. Families leave DC all the time (transient city). Those kids aren't backfilled at BASIS so you don't notice them at other schools. You also ignore the application HS process. If kids apply to SWW or Banneker or DESA and decide to attend that doesn't mean BASIS failed. It means kids had options and chose something else. Some kids do indeed leave (lots between 6th and 7th) because the school is not a good fit for them. And that is ok. It doesn't have to be. The fundamental failure of your argument is that kids who aren't a good fit and leave for a better fit is an indication of BASIS's "failure". That is no more true than it is to say that a kid who opts to leave BASIS because it isn't a good fit "failed".

Tl:Dr Your analytical skills and critical thinking failed you.[/quote]

If you saw that garbled mess of an answer to any other school, public or private, you would call bullshit. And what's weird is that none of the other schools  (public or private) that have comparable test scores, have this issue of a dramatic decline in class size from 9th to 12th...

[b]How many kids start at 9th grade finish with a diploma? If it's not 75-80%+ the school isn't working.[/b] [/quote]

I now see the problem. You made up B.S. numbers. The 60% number you are (incorrectly) hanging your hat on is total attrition based on class size from 5th through 12th. Bolded above makes clear you mean to address attrition from 9th-12th.

Let's look at the actual OSSE data. 
9th grade enrollment 2016-17 vs 12th grade enrollment 2019-20: 57 vs 50 (87%)
9th grade enrollment 2017-18 vs 12th grade enrollment 2020-21: 49 vs 39 (80%)
9th grade enrollment 2018-19 vs 12th grade enrollment 2021-22: 57 vs 52 (91%)
9th grade enrollment 2019-20 vs 12th grade enrollment 2022-23: 54 vs 42 (78%)
9th grade enrollment 2020-21 vs 12th grade enrollment 2024: 49 vs 39 (80%)

Good news is based on the criteria you set out [i]("If it's not 75-80%+ the school isn't working")[/i] the school is "working". Welcome to the Boosters Club!!!!
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lol

Don’t feed the troll.[/quote]

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