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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I grew up in the GPNW and know the schools on this list from that region pretty well--have had friends attend all of them. They're all great places for kids who dig their respective ethos. In alpha order: Evergreen State is super hippie. Like a left coast version of UNC-Asheville only more so. Or a mini UC Santa Cruz. More intellectual than academic, if that makes sense. Reed is intense. Like a less selective but no less ambitious Swarthmore--but with lots of black eyeliner and hard drugs. If you're not both brilliant and cynical, it's not your spot. UPS is kind of like a miniaturized flagship. Solid for business, music, and liberal arts and sciences. Wide range of kids there, almost all of them happy. Whitman is like west coast Middlebury but in a bigger, better town (but also way further from anything else). For kids who check the "intellectual," "outdoorsy," and "at least somewhat preppy" boxes, it's heaven. Willamette is right next to the state capital and is a school for go-getters, across a decent range of raw intellectual firepower levels.[/quote] Which of these schools would work for a moderately conservative student who is interested in that area of the country?[/quote]UPS or Willamette for sure. Probably Whitman, too. Definitely not Reed or Evergreen State.[/quote] I second UPS for this description. Work in Seattle in non-profit adjacent to people in finance annd investment management work and the its littered with UPS grads who are down to earth, slightly conservative for this area, sporty into adulthood, and a bit more “East Coast” than my other colleagues.[/quote] Which one of those schools is UPS? I don't understand the abbreviation.[/quote] "UPS" is the University of Puget Sound in Tacoma, WA. I had to smile when I read PP's description of a UPS grad ("down to earth, slightly conservative for this area, sporty into adulthood, and a bit more “East Coast” than my other colleagues") as it so perfectly describes the one UPS grad I know. Rather preppy Marin County type. Definitely down to earth. Liberal, but not so much for Seattle. Very hard-working. Extremely polite. LOTS of interests and specific knowledge of a very wide range of subjects, which indicates a broad education. I was impressed with the guy. [/quote] University of Puget Sound was on my kid's list last year and it was my favorite tour. The students were friendly, smart and happy. The campus is beautiful. They seemed to have a nice community. I liked Tacoma. They fed us really great ice cream. The financial aid package was good. Alas, my kid decided to go elsewhere. [/quote]For those who like UPS (and other PNW schools), Lewis & Clark might be worth a look too. It's not on the CTCL list, but it probably could be. The campus is gorgeous! [/quote] Lewis & Clark is somewhat similar to UPS, but it definitely has more of a trustafarian vibe. [/quote]If that's a statement about trust fund and not the style in which the trust fund is expressed, in terms of family income, Lewis & Clark and University of the Puget Sound are nearly identical, with UPS slightly higher. Median family income Lewis & Clark: 130,900 UPS:138,500. 60% of students at Lewis & Clark come from the top 20% income, 61% at UPS. 7.7% of students at Lewis & Clark are from the top 1%, 7.6% at UPS. 4.4% at L&C are from the bottom 20%, 3.1% at UPS. I love this NYTimes upshot tool! I hope they continue to update it with new data.[/quote]The NYT tool is great but it doesn't capture generation-skipping trusts or other tax-avoidance tools of the truly wealthy, more of whom end up at L&C than UPS.[/quote] NP. How do you know that? That’s not consistent with my impression of the two schools FWIW. [/quote]
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