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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We visited Kalamazoo a year ago because a coach there was heavily recruiting my son and they offered him enough merit aid to make the cost less than attending our state flagship.

While he liked the academic side of it, after spending a few days with the boys on the team he would be playing with he absolutely did not want to attend.  While they do have a long list of impressive alumni, the students he met did not seem particularly motivated compared to his friends at home and found the landscape to be dreary. Most of the former team players the coach mentioned as successful were working at large corporations which was kind of a turnoff. [/quote]

See, now here is a skeptical post that is actually useful -- discerning, specific, and (most important) based on first-hand experience. Thank you, PP.[/quote]

I'm so confused. Some poster cries out, consistently, that CTCL grads don't land jobs or need to go to grad school to do so. Then someone points out that a lot of players on one sports team now work at large corporations - what many parents would say is a good ROI - and that's damning. [/quote]

I'm the PP who said it's useful. It's useful not because it's damning. It's useful because PP shared their specific perspective, based on their/their kid's values/likes/dislikes which they made clear. From what they posted, I can discern things. Their kid found the landscape "dreary." Interesting. My kid, who is oddly drawn to gritty, post-industrial places (especially if there are good thrift stores and dusty antique stores and funky, mostly-empty coffee shops with macrame plant hangers in the window), might not feel the same way. On the other hand, my kid will probably feel similarly about success being defined as large corporations. And although PP's kid didn't want to attend, he liked the academic program -- that's good to know, too.

PP's post is, of course, anecdotal -- one person's subjective experience based on one visit with a specific and finite group of kids. I wouldn't encourage or discourage my kid based on one post alone. But a whole lot of specific posts based on first hand experience might begin, collectively, to paint a useful picture.

Unfortunately, most of the skeptical posts in this thread seem based on zero first-hand experience, and in fact many of the skeptics have demonstrated a lack of even basic knowledge about these schools. And those posts are totally useless. [/quote]

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