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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The numbers simply don't show that immersion is failing English speaking kids. I mean we can throw out anecdotes all you wan. I have two kids in Immersion and both of them were identified as gifted and score near 600 on every SOL they take.  Heck my youngest is 4 grade levels ahead in math.  And we don't do anything special to supplement and are an English speaking household. My kids are also now at least conversationally fluent in Spanish. But anecdotes don't matter. You can get plenty of stories in here how neighborhood schools or other choice school kids are struggling and switching schools fixed it. Some schools just aren't a fix for kids.

But the test scores at Clarmeont for white kids (only way i can theoretically look at data for English speaking kids easily) are higher than Abingdon, Alice fleet, Oakridge  and Drew (I stopped looking at this pt) and the scores are on par with schools like Nottingham. English speaking kids as a whole aren't being failed at Claremont, the data simply does not support that. But I firmly believe immersion isn't for everyone.  [/quote] As a Claremont family (english speaking), I underscore this. The data simply does not track with the claims on this board when it comes to achievement. The data overall for immersion programs shows that cohorts can lag but by middle/high school, they score better than comparable peers on standardized tests (to the extent that matters to people - which appraently, is a lot). People love to point to "well my kid..." or "i know a family..." The same can be said for non-immersion programs. Some kids need different things and thrive in different environments. But it's simply not the case that this is an indictment on the program itself.[/quote]

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