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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]San Francisco is NEVER going to solve the homeless crisis because if they house 10,000 people overnight by some miracle, then 10,000 more will arrive from across the country. This is why places like California, New York, DC, Portland, etc. are going to always have homeless people. Lax laws such as no drug enforcement, cheap cost of drugs - fentanyl is cheaper in SF than other areas, [b]plus generous handouts means people from across the country[/b] will continue to pour into SF and other cities like it. [/quote]

Doesn't help that all of the western red states are sending their own homeless, their own drug addicts and so on to San Francisco rather than dealing with it themselves.  And then they have the gall to point at the people THEY SENT THERE and say "oh look, how disgusting San Francisco is with all those homeless and drug addicts on the streets."[/quote]

This is just false and is being pushed as a narrative to try to somehow make excuses for the homeless problem in SF.

[quote]Seventy-one percent of those surveyed reported living in San Francisco, 24% in other California counties and 4% outside California.

Of those with a prior residence in the city, 17% said they had lived in San Francisco for less than one year, while 35% said they had been in the city for 10 or more years. The remaining 52% of those respondents said they lived in the city between one and 10 years before becoming homeless.[/quote]

https://sfstandard.com/public-health/san-francisco-homeless-people-from-the-city/#[/quote]

The chief of police just said out of the last 45 people arrested for public drug use in SF (there behavior must have been atrocious to get arrested ) only 3 out if the 45 had SF addresses. Even the article states:
 Others argue that the data is flawed because it’s self-reported and that it still finds that more than 2,200 people of the city’s total 7,754 unhoused population were homeless before they moved to San Francisco.

My brother lives there and says must residents know that homeless are encouraged to say they are from SF even when they are not. There are plenty of journalists who have filmed themselves asking homeless where they are from and if the response is SF. But then they ask them what high school they went to and they don’t respond or then admit they aren’t from SF and recently arrived. Often they add how easy it is to be homeless there 650 dollars in general assistance plus $250 in food stamps every month. To get that money you have to be a CA resident, so of course people are going to report they are from CA.[/quote]

The homeless go to SF on their own free will because it is a magnet for homeless people.  They receive benefits that other states don't provide.  They have access to free drug paraphernalia and they know they won't be arrested for public vagrancy.  It is the policies there that is making this problem worse - not other states "sending" their homeless there.  
When you make it "comfortable" for homeless to stay drug addicted and to live the way they want, more homeless will come.  [/quote]

How uncomfortable do you think it should be? Should they not get food assistance? No financial assistance? Should they be arrested and jailed? If they ever get back on their feet it will be more difficult for them to find work and housing if they have arrest records. I don't know what the answer is, but I don't think the answer is less support, starvation, or jail. [/quote]

If one of my kids becomes an addict, yeah I want it to be uncomfortable  to use. Other states don’t hand out cash and food stamps totaling over $900 a month. I would rather he be in jail not using than in the streets with a really high chance of OD’ing on fentanyl. Or offered mandatory treatment vs. a jail sentence. That’s how it used to be in CA a few years ago when they had drug courts. But voters decided against that so now there is no threat of jail if you don’t go into treatment and no jail to stay least get you clean.

It is a miserable existence on the streets. Why are we letting so many people live like this and OD? 110,000 people died of an overdose on 2022; 100,000 people died in 2021. That’s insane! Ask family members if they wish their lives one was in jail or confined treatment facility or dead. [/quote]

The more money spent on homelessness, the more homelessness there will be.  Cities like SF are actively encouraging it by giving money to the homeless.  If you build it, they will come.  [/quote]

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