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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why did NATO with UN authorization intervene in Bosnia?
https://www.icty.org/en/cases/judgement-list

To whataboutski: what's the difference between an intervention and an invasion?  If intervention is so bad then why is invasion good?  Ethnic cleansing, rape as an instrument of war, and targeting civilians is very bad stuff.  Arguing that it's ok, which to be clear is exactly what you are doing, because the US negligently unleashed a sectarian civil war in Iraq is despicable.[/quote]

LOL interventions and invasions are only bad when committed by not-America.

When committed by America, they are righteous.  Or, at their worst, regrettable but innocent mistakes.[/quote]

Well based on your own words they seem to all be bad but at the same time you are using those criticisms to claim an invasion for territorial gain characterized by ethnic cleansing, widespread strategic rape, and the intentional targeting of civilians by the aggressor i[b]s a good tbing[/b].  It's easy to see why one could get confused.

But anyway, as you point out, Russia's invasion of Ukraine has unleashed a lot of forces within Russia that will inevitably lead to its downfall.  It has also unified Ukraine in opposition such that it could never be integrated or peacefully controlled.  Using Iraq as an example, the ethnic divisions within Russia will become more pronounced and antagonistic while the normalization of mass violence will leave a legacy of sociopathy among the population such that normalcy cannot be returned to in the near term.  If the best case scenario for post-war Russia is Iraq then what is the worst case?[/quote]

No, I never claimed it's a good thing, are you insane? that's you talking to voices in your head.

Using Iraq as an example, Ukraine is Iraq, not Russia.  Divisions within Iraq (other than Kurds) are religious, not ethnic.
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You have by implication since otherwise it has absolutely zero relevence to this thread or any of the others about Russia's invasion of Ukraine in a war of territorial agression.  By all means analyze and compare the impact but you haven't.

Divisions are divisions.  There is nothing unique about religion or ethnicity.  It's about how demographic differences get pushed to the forefront and then cause splintering.  You should also know that the ethnic differences in Russia are also religious.

But let's look at what the failed intervention led to in the US.  Dynamics that would be of far less impact in the US than Russia owing to the sheer mass of Russian casualties, sanctions, preexisting baselines, autocracy and geographic distance.  In the US it's led to a militarization of civilian institutions like the police, an increasing normalization of societal violence, and the rise of right wing isolatinist populism. The US even had an attempted coup.  War always opens Pandora's box.  The Russia of 2020 is a dead man walking and Ukraine will need help from the world to return to normal after the Russians are kicked out..

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