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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most women dated in HS and college.  Do they really need to keep dating different men for 3-4-5-6-7 more years after college?  If they’ve been focused on finding good partners at every stage of dating, how likely is it that none of these guys was Mr. Right-enough?  Are there really that many women who are setting impossible standards?  Assuming that they envision at some point settling down and raising a family, why does this project take so damn long for so many of them?  I think there’s something in our culture/nurturing of girls that throws a wrench in the works, but not sure what that is.  Perhaps it’s how emphatic and powerful the highly contradictory messages are (such as in this thread) —  they just cause a kind of purgatory of undecidedness.[/quote]

It’s moreso that men suck.[/quote]

NP here and I hear this sentiment from other women a good deal.  I truly don't understand it -- if men are so horrible and constantly derided, why be with them at all?  Why not find a woman to spend your life with or be celibate?  There are awful dudes out there, and awful women, but it doesn't mean you have to be in a relationship with any of them.[/quote]

A lot of women make this choice once the societal pressure to marry is gone. I know many contented single women in their 40s and beyond. [/quote]

Content, or philosophically resigned tontheir fate, or putting on a brave face?  [/quote]

Do you actually think a woman cannot be haply without a man? I mean seriously, wtf. But yes, gasp, content. [/quote]

Women seem unhinged when alone. Men less so. Both suffer from loneliness, to what extent is sensitive to their sex.[/quote]
It reminds me of Houellebecq’s Elementary Particles, a book about the tragic lives of men and women who grew old in the post-sexual revolution world. On aging alone:
[i]"The whole spiritual thing makes the pickup lines less brutal. Men who grow old have it easier than older women. They drink cheap booze and fall asleep, their breath stinks, then they wake up and start all over again; they tend to die young. Women take tranquilizers, go to yoga classes, see a shrink; they live a lot longer and suffer more. They try to trade on their looks, even when they know their bodies are sad and ugly. They get hurt but they do it anyway, because they can't give up the need to be loved.”[/i][/quote]

Oh yes, known friend to women,  Houellebecq. [/quote]
He did finally get married a year or two ago. She looks lovely and they appear to be quite happy, despite him aging like a wrung out dish towel. And to be fair, the male protagonists of his novels are even worse off than the women so I think it’s quite even to the despair on both sides.[/quote]

His books are disgusting and shouldn’t be taken as some kind of roadmap to personal happiness. [/quote]
Nobody reads his books that way nor is that ever the takeaway from the stories. Like, that’s the whole point. And I didn’t quote the book out of admiration of him as a person, rather that it was art that is pretty true to life. [/quote]

I mean you are literally quoting him claiming he has some insight into women. he does not. he is a disgusting old dude with major hangups, married to a woman 30 yrs his junior. [/quote]

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