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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Please go watch last night's episode of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver and learn a little more about why SROs not only don't work but cause harm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgwqQGvYt0g[/quote]

This was brilliant![/quote]

"The evidence for cops in schools deterring school shootings is not there, and the evidence for the damage they can do is significant". They went on to say that in 20 years of data, there were only two cases where SROs actually stopped a shooting; further, the study indicated that their presence increased the body count.[/quote]

Well I hope those 2 cases included the SRO who helped stop the Clarksburg HS kid with the gun and the SRO who literally stopped a gunman at a MD HS after shots were fired. https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/20/us/maryland-school-shooting-resource-officer-response-trnd/index.html[/quote]

In the story you link, a gunman with a specific target shot and killed that target and then shot and killed himself.  Two lives were lost and no evidence to show that any additional lives were likely to be lost.  [/quote]

That's right. We'd never know if additional lives would've been lost but thank goodness this SRO responded to the scene in less than a minute to prevent that from happening. My biggest point is these studies you all refer to lose their sparkle when a simple 2-second google search provides numerous pieces of evidence to dispute it. [/quote]

My point is that the "evidence" that you provided does not, in fact, dispute it.[/quote]

Whatever you want to think is fine but it actually does. Sorry.[/quote]

Sincerely, please help me understand.  Two students died and one was injured.  It is theoretically possible that more students could have been hurt, but we don't know (and the facts indicate that this was a targeted shooting, as opposed to random)

What we know is that the SRO's presence did NOT deter the shooter from entering the school with a gun and did NOT deter the shooter from firing shots resulting in two deaths.

How is this evidence that an SRO was successful in deterring or preventing anything?[/quote]
This is the same logic that gun nutters use for why we shouldn't have stricter gun controls -- gun controls don't work, we still have mass shootings, so why have more gun control.
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So....do you want to help me understand how this is an instance of successful deterrent and prevention, or no?[/quote]

I think you just have to connect the dots. SROs have been present more often than not at these schools shootings and have rarely had a positive impact. If you are concerned about guns the answer isn't putting more guns in school but gun reforms. I know it's not what the NRA wants but it does make a lot more sense than guys with guns.[/quote]
After 20 something 5/6 years olds were murdered in school, there were no additional real gun reforms.   I would be happy with strict gun control, but that's not going to happen with the gun nutters and 2A hardliners. So absent gun reforms, SROs makes sense.

Once there is measurable gun reforms, then we can talk about removing SROs.[/quote]

This.  At the end of the day, if your child was in the vicinity of the shooter at that Maryland HS, would you have preferred to have or not have the SRO? I know what I would choose. [/quote]

Not have, especially if the SRO starts shooting off rounds that will most likely hit my child or any child around or near or behind the shooter.

I prefer SWAT be called in.[/quote]

Everyone will be dead before SWAT gets there. It's an extremist view to not want to have an SRO in a building that has an actives shooter. [/quote]

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