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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s time to push in to Russia itself. [/quote]

No one wants that, but Putin and the FSB have long been obsessed with the idea that the West wants to invade or at least topple the regime and control the next leader. It's the entire reason why Putin and the ultranationalists want a Greater Russia, to defend itself against the West. Which from their point of view makes total sense. I'm sure a CIA unit is tasked with making contacts with political opponents and fundraising opposition movements and activitists. But it might pain them to know that Russia is not *that* high on any country's list that they'd want to actively take on a managerial role in its affairs. We're more concerned with China.

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I think it is unquestionable that the "West" would very much prefer to have Russia led by a West-approved, compliant leader a la Zelensky.

Inasmuch as past history is the best indicator of future performance, it's also not unreasonable to have concerns about the West-driven regime change - certainly the West has not shied away from replacing leaders it doesn't like by force, invasions, funding the opposition, meddling in elections, or, in cases where this doesn't work, economic warfare.  You cannot possibly argue that hasn't happened. [/quote]

I'm not disputing that it would be mice to have a democratic Russia.

But Putin and allies believe there is an intense effort underway to fund opposition parties and effect regime change, and there simply isn't, because we don't care that much. Every nation spies on every other nation. The EU countries and the USA [b]desultorily helps opposition parties of autocracies around the world[/b] and monitors regime weaknesses, etc, but the fact of the matter is that Russia is not all that. Not worth our time and money. Putin is obsessed over figments of his imagination, as usual.[/quote]

Really?  Like it helped the Bahrain uprising asking for more representation in the government?  By helping to put it down with Saudi troops and American weapons?  Was American meddling in LAC also a figment of someone's imagination?  Stop lying.[/quote]

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