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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]See, here's the thing. An "abortion story" that goes something like "I didn't want to have a baby so I had an abortion" is every bit as valid as all of these stories about fetal abnormalities and everything else because MY BODY MY CHOICE. Nothing else matters.[/quote] Why end the life of a tiny human being who no longer needs you? Allow her to continue her life without you. What’s the payoff in being violent?[/quote] Why are you lying? People don't get abortions on healthy pregnancies willy-nilly after the point of viability. They might end a pregnancy after 27 weeks for tragic reasons, but at that point the baby is delivered. Even in few weeks before viability, most pregnancies that are deliberately ended are tragic situations like this one. Read this woman's story. Even at 19.5 weeks it was a delivery, by c-section, not a D&E. [twitter]https://twitter.com/YepISaidItAgain/status/1541206014846013442[/twitter] [/quote] Oh good, yet another story just like the OP's with absolutely zero evidence or indication that mother's life was remotely in jeopardy. Pregnancies end spontaneously at many points in pregnancy and end naturally without danger to the mother--sorry, pregnant person--all the time. And by the way, if the fetus is just a sack of cells and only a "potential for life" as most posters on here keep claiming, why all the worry about the "baby" "suffering, suffocating?" You can't have it both ways. You can't say it's only a "potentail for life" and then claim it's to prevent their suffering in the uterus if it's not really a person. I speak from experience very much like this story. I was never in danger, the pregnancy ended on its own. My twins lived and breathed in my arms for a short time on earth. My healthcare takers knew better than to sedate me, knowing that it was important for me to be in the moment and remember my children. I don't have the PTSD that the storyteller here does--and I didn't even have a child to go home to. Just an empty sad house. But hard things happen to us, and if you're a normal person, you grieve and move on. This story is BS. [/quote] DP but you are responding to someone talking about a non-viable baby not the health of the mother. It is beyond cruel to force someone to continue to carry and deliver a baby that will not live, if that is their choice. You need help.[/quote] [b]So that Twitter story person specifically said their life was at risk--that's an unknown.[/b] She's the one claiming PTSD and the necessity for therapy, etc. But I need help? I don't think so. I never ever said that women shouldn't choose to abort their pregnancy if a definitive diagnosis shows that the baby's condition is not compatible with life. One of my best friends made this choice in their 22nd week of pregnancy because of Trisomy 18, just months after I delivered my twins in the 20th week. And I was fully in support of her decision, and cried and empathized with her. I don't know why you jump to such crazy conclusions. I support women choosing abortion for whatever reason they wish. These dramatic women, making specious claims about how abortion saved their lives are what I take issue with. It completely devalues those who make the choice for other reasons, like my friend. Her life was not at risk. Her baby probably would have been born and lived a painful life for a short time. I want women like her to have that decision. And even want women like OP and that Twitter person to have that choice too--just to be honest and stop being so dramatic. They are the ones who need help, not me. [/quote] Stop right there. Doctors do know when a woman's life is at risk. They do not know whether the woman will die. But they know for certain, based on data, that the woman has a risk of dying in certain situations. You should stop saying "there was no evidence the woman's life was at risk," because you're not correct. The evidence is there for you to research. It's in the data, the stats, based on hundreds of years of collecting information about what types of things can kill pregnant women. When someone is diagnosed with cancer, and the doctor says "without treatment, you will be dead in 1 month." Do you tell that person "Nobody knows if you're at risk of dying until you're on your death bed?" No, because based on the history of people with that type of cancer, at that stage, doctors know the RISK of death without treatment. Would you attack that cancer patient for saying "that doctor saved my life?" "Shush it, cancer patient, you could have waited it out without treatment! " [/quote]
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