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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The article states she was 23 in her class. Curious as to where the kids ranked higher than her are going. Also, that seems like some major grade inflation if two Bs bumps you down to 23rd. (And I am getting the sense a lot of big public schools are that way - very grade inflated). Also wonder how rigorous her classes were. [/quote] She was 23rd in the class and half of the 600 are not even aiming to go to college. So I would look at that as 23rd out of the 300 trying for college. That is a great achievement but she was given poor advice if she she thought she would definitely be admitted to any of the colleges listed.[/quote] Colleges should really be more direct if that’s how they define class rank. A lot of kids hear “top x% of your class” and think that means they’re tippy top.[/quote] She knew what her class rank was. She received very poor guidance. It’s like she just said I’m going to apply to all the very best schools I’ve heard of and throw in Arizona State as a safety. That’s not a good strategy for anyone no matter how qualified you think you are. [/quote] And posters have criticized some of us here when we say a 4.2 and 1500 are a dime a dozen. It’s crazy, but yes, this is just the foundation of a strong application. [/quote] I think the way you stated it just now is great -- it's a foundation. I got so annoyed by people calling my kid "a dime a dozen," because they don't know her. She had way higher stats than this plus lots of other bells and whistles. I just had lumping kids into an amorphous blob. But, I do get that it is about standing out, and that great academics just buy you a ticket to enter. So much else is dependent on if the student fills the college's need, how the student distinguishes his or her self, if the college things they will say Yes. I think one thing that was helpful for mine was the ability to contact admissions officers with awards updates -- created a means to stand out in two ways, by connecting to the AO and getting her name in front of them and adding to overall profile.[/quote]
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