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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not a public university in the top 20.[/quote]

Because real life != message boards full of circle-jerking striver moms who couldn't afford (or couldn't get their kid into) private college and do nothing but wax on and on about how amazing their kid's public U is. In real life,[b] the smartest kids at Virginia, Berkeley, UCLA and Michigan are JEALOUS of their friends at elite private colleges[/b].[/quote]

Not true at all. I went to one of those public universities and majored in a department that was ranked #1 nationally. Many of us actually felt sorry for the fools who paid 10X for a lower ranked major at one of those overpriced private colleges.

But yes, I'm sure their dorms were fancier and the gym had a floating river...

Frankly, the only reason the privates rank higher is because of gimmicks like artificially pumping applications so they can reject a higher percentage of applicants.[/quote] 
Those private school students likely still had better placement after graduation. [/quote]

Not true. The Forbes college list actually has the public universities at the top precisely because their ranking methodology gives greater weight to how many of a university's graduates become leaders in business and government.  USNews and Forbes focus more on incoming stats you can manipulate like acceptance rate.[/quote]
This is dumb, the word leaders come mostly from HYP. For ed has a garbage methodology that uses cost of attendance divided by post grad salary, public schools are cheap for instate students thus public schools do better in the Forbes ranking. [/quote]

"come mostly" - Penn, Stanford, Columbia, MIT have all produced more billionaires, high net-worth individuals, startup founders in tech, or Forbes 30 under 30 than either Yale or Princeton. The past two presidents went to Columbia and Wharton. Princeton hasn't graduated a single cabinet member since Donald Rumsfeld. So-called leaders like Tom Cotton went to Havard, Ron DeSantis went to Yale, and Ted Cruz to Princeton.

Maybe except for Rhodes, HYP grads have never dominated the top three of any awards outlined in the Forbes methodology at the same time: "MacArthur Fellowship, Nobel Prize, Breakthrough Prize, Lasker Prize, Fields Prize, Academy Awards, Oscars, Tony’s, NAACP Awards, Guggenheim Fellowship, major sport all-stars, Presidential Medals and Pulitzer Prizes."

The HYP prestige defense squad can't really hold on to their facts right? You do realize that there are tons of schools out there whose graduate outcomes are on par, if not better than HYP? What kind of world are you really living in? [/quote]

+1. The squad is really incapable of either reasoning, or fact-finding. [/quote]

I don’t think anyone from cares but why are you all trumpeting how the Forbes rankings show that Yale and Princeton are terrible when they are 2 and 3?[/quote]

Classic HYP prestige defense squad move. You make a bold baseless claim and when facts don't work in your favor, you call them irrelevant or just "oh we don't care." Sounds very much like QAnon! [/quote]

Honestly i'm not really impressed when someone humble brags about HYP.  Remember, Jared "went" to Harvard, W "went" to Harvard and Yale, and a certain very stable genius "went" to Wharton.

I'm more impressed by the scrappy kid who got a full ride to U Mich and used their degree to do some good in the world.[/quote]

Good post. What really matters is not where you go to school but how you help humanity with your degree.[/quote]

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