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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a bigger problem for liberal arts colleges than it is for men. They are losing half of their potential “customers.” The gender ratios are reversed in STEM programs, while the women go get degrees in gender studies or art history.

These top schools used to be finishing schools for the children of the wealthy, who would then go to work at Daddy’s firm. Now, only a small portion of those kids can get in, and the first Gen kids that are replacing them are just now starting to figure out that the degree itself was just a small part of the package that allowed those kids to succeed in life.  (See, the sudden spate of articles whining about how their $320,000 SLAC degrees don’t lead to careers that can provide a good lifestyle without generational wealth.)

Not to mention that[b] there are more men who are foregoing degrees altogether, and going straight into business[/b]. Go straight into business, have four years of income vs. no income and a $80,000 to $320,000 expenditure? Unless you think you’re going to be one of the tiny fraction that end up in investment banking or at a T-14 law school, it’s an easy call.

How many women posting on this board have Ivy League degrees and are SAHMs?  These colleges have become finishing schools for the UC/UMC. They were just gatekeeping for certain jobs, and now people are realizing that it isn’t necessary as these colleges have begun to price themselves out of the market. It wasn’t that long ago that the press and stock traders, for example, didn’t have college degrees (and the press, for one, was better for it).  “College for all” has devalued the product to the point that we’re realizing it never really added that much value in the first place.

FWIW, I’m not anti-intellectual.  I love to sit around and read history, and would have done it for a living had I been born wealthy.  But doing that for a living is not really feasible for people without generational wealth, and we had to see a whole generation of students who didn’t know any better figure that out for themselves. [/quote]

+1.  You said it much better than I did above, but the premise that men giving up college is a "problem" is just bogus.  The worthlessness of liberal arts degrees is the problem.[/quote]

This is what is happening.  There are still plenty of men in STEM where, when you graduate as an engineer or system administrator you can pay the bills.    [b]A degree in Music Therapy, Gender Studies, or other areas,[/b] there are not that many good jobs out there so men are wising up and staying away.

Men are also finding out that if you are broke or don't have a bright career path, many women will turn their nose up and turn away so men are motivated to show the money now.   When on a date, you do not come across as a convincing breadwinner saying, "Yeah, I have a degree in Medieval History and yes, I'm working at Starbucks but no, there are no jobs out there that I can find in my field.  I cannot stand in front of a classroom so being a school teacher or assistant professor at a university is off the table.  But I know a lot about heraldry and battle axes!"[/quote]

Holy sh#t you people are like a broken record. The vast majority of women don't major in this stuff. You're spinning a yarn.

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Further, the vast majority of men are not studying hard sciences in college.

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