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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even in the lesser privates, the gap is significant. As a student, teacher, and now parent that has gone back and forth between public and private (but not elite privates), I still see a big difference. Chiefly it's that the publics spend most of their time dealing with govt bureaucracy and difficult students, while privates do neither of those things. Without having to cowtow to govt mandates and without classrooms full of seriously disturbed students who won't let anyone else learn, privates can actually.....teach. [/quote] The elite privates just have to kowtow to seriously disturbed parents, according to the article.[/quote] Exactly. I’m literally chuckling at the “public schools can’t teach because of bad students” lmao Most students are average whether they’re in public or private.[/quote] Wow, you clearly have never been in a public school classroom. I taught in one for 10 years. Literally ALL our attention and effort is on two things - students struggling academically who are a year or more behind, and students with major behavior problems that are so disruptive they prevent learning for the other 30 people in the room (30!). That does not happen in private. [/quote] I actually have been in a public school classroom and cole from a family of educators. I also have a cousin that has been a principle and is now a superintendent. What you wrote couldn’t be furthest from the truth. But I understand, people will have to find ways to rationalize spending $35,000 - $50,000+ a year on private school for their 8 year olds.[/quote] Well okay, since you say so. Look, the people paying for private schools — only some of which cost as much as you are frothing about — either have plenty of money and can afford it, or they barely have enough money but it’s a priority to them and they make tradeoffs, or (like my family) they can’t afford and get financial aid. You clearly don’t think it’s worth it. That’s fine. Why are you hanging out here to harangue people who do think it’s worth it? I’m sure you spend your money in ways that seem foolish to other people. In fact, I’m certain that you consume something that someone else would consider a luxury good. That article was so stupid. How long did it take her to come up with the earth-shattering premise that private schools are luxury good? And that not everybody can afford them? And that plenty of people who consume luxury goods care about equity? MacKenzie Scott gave away almost $6b last year, and yet I promise you she doesn’t live in a shack. If the premise is that no luxury goods should exist, then be honest and admit it’s what you’re saying. Are you just as upset about the existence of a Mercedes dealership as you are about Sidwell? Are you just as eager to convince everyone that Mercedes actually aren’t that great and that anyone who buys one is a fool? If Mercedes says “we will not tolerate racism among our staff, and will fire anyone who acts in a racist manner” are they just being hypocritical, because equity or something?[/quote] I never said private schools aren’t worth it. I support both public AND private schools. It’s presumptuous of you to think I don’t support private schools. All I said was the majority of children in private schools are average. And the majority of children in public schools are average. The majority of human beings sin the world are average. I’m just sick of the “children in private schools are SOOO much better” when that couldn’t be further from the truth.[/quote] One of the great ironies of our current mess is that the richer kids are generally doing worse, psychologically, than the more middle class ones. (For more on this read Madeline Levine, Suniya Luthar, Self-Driven Kid by Stixrud & Johnson, studies like this: https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1012963 ) The mentality that is at the heart of the decision to send most kids to elite private schools is at the heart of this dynamic. The irony is intense: Kids actually do better when they have an opportunity to develop resilience (and even, as I tell my own public school kids, to tolerate boredom and adversity). The more we do for our kids, the less they learn to do--and the cushier we make it, the less able they are to tolerate life, and the more likely they are to struggle with anxiety and other mental health problems in adulthood. [/quote] So you've come to this private school discussion board to... save our children? Thanks, I guess.[/quote]
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