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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Honestly, this is a golden opportunity for us to make fundamental, desperately needed changes to the public school system. With any luck, about half of the current PS teachers will resign/be fired. We need to downsize the size of the PS system- eliminate all of the social work type nonsense. Focus on actually educating kids. Provide vouchers so that those that want to escape can, allowing smaller staffs to handle their students. Make it more difficult to become a PS teacher, and start paying more to those that are actually qualified.

If we don't make a change now, our schools will be lost for good.

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I'm not understanding- you want to eliminate funding by giving out more vouchers, then somehow have smaller class sizes?[/quote]

THere will be smaller class sizes due to the exodus of people choosing better options through vouchers. Eliminating expenditures on non-educational programs will help with funding. If taxes need to be raised beyond that, so be it. People need to realize having a decent PS system is worth paying for. The problem is, we are at the present paying for but not receiving quality service from our schools. And whether you want to admit it or not, a large part of that problem is that the quality of teachers at the PS level is atrocious. [/quote]

You want to raise taxes to provide vouchers for private schools?  I’m sorry that the public school system is not working out for you, but you should pay for private school yourself. So entitled.[/quote]

Lol. Entitled is paying for public schools that are failing my children?? And then paying for a better alternative, while also being forced to pay for failing PS?? Right. True "entitlement" is people like you thinking you are entitled to my money and labor. Sorry. The time for failures like you living off of others is coming to end.

We have truly jumped the shark on the whole "entitled" thing, particularly when stupid people like yourself have no idea what it means but continue to toss it out for every scenario.

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You are being taxed to provide a public service to all students.  If the public school option does not work for you, yes, you pay to put your child into private.  You don't get to take your tax money back because the general solution does not work in your specific case.  If that's true, then I want my tax money back that was spent on the highways and traffic lights and hospitals in your part of town because I don't use them and they don't benefit me.  I can't use the local roads, so I want my tax money back to use the toll road to bypass the local roads.

Taxes are based on applying services to public need, regardless of where you live or whether you use the services.  Every parent who has their children in private schools, still pays taxes to support public schools.  [b]You don't get out of the taxes because you choose to opt out of the public option.
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Uh I don't think you understand how vouchers work. [/quote]

Money for vouchers is typically paid from the money that states allocate to schools.  So, the state determines how much money is given per child to each school district.  If you pull your child out of public school and are given a voucher to go to parochial or private school, the tax money that would normally go to the school is reduced by the amount normally assigned per student and that money is given to the voucher instead.  Since the person receiving the voucher is typically a property owner whose property taxes went to support the school system, that means that they are essentially being given back some of the money they paid in property tax to support the school and that money is deducted from the school, thereby reducing the funds that the school will get.  Vouchers hurt the local public schools which will get less money and will have that much less money to provide services, teaching aids, and resources to the students that remain.  If there is a mass exodus of children, then schools will be left with significant shortfall of financial resources to accommodate the remaining children.

You are always welcome to take your child out of public school, if the public option does not work for you.  You just don't deserve a voucher of the school's money to do that.  You would then be paying tax money to support the school that you don't use much like tax payers without children, or tax payers supporting road, police, health and other infrastructures in parts of the state that they never visit or use.[/quote]

Oh thank you for allowing me to take my own children out of your failing PS. I'm just not sure why you think I should not be allowed to have a voucher while others are? Is it because as a black person I am supposed to be forced to stay in my neighborhood? The argument that "vouchers hurt the public school system" stopped having meaning when the PS system continued to be non-responsive and a trap for children like mine. So if it hurts the PS system, I don't care in the least. [/quote]

Look at what happened on DC. Charters were supposed to be a magic bullet that saved education but instead you have a few top tier ones and the rest are as mediocre or as bad. [/quote]

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