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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I would love it if the National Park Police and the Metropolitan police utilized aggressive stop and frisk for suspicious persons at zoo events and in the environs of the zoo.  It would make things a lot better for the law abiding majority.  In NYC, Mayor DiBlasio is being roundly criticized for handcuffing the police, including ending stop and frisk, thus allowing a feral gang of young predators to murder a Barnard student by campus.[/quote]

Those officers in the units that basically had quotas for frisking didn't like it for obvious reasons. A lot of the NYPD hates Deblasio, so they just want something to complain about (handcuffed, cant do job, etc). Trust me, it is absolutely legal (terry v ohio) and acceptable to pat someone down if you have reasonable suspicion. And if you want aggressive pat downs, you too can and will be pat down.[/quote]

Not a fan of stop and frisk.  
It's legal, yes, but it's biased as shit.
And I don't think people realize how damaging it is for adolescents to be under that type of heavy scrutiny by law enforcement ALL THE TIME.
Especially when they've done nothing wrong but "look suspicious/threatening" i.e. have black skin, which is something that they cannot change.

That type of frequent harassment from authorities is not something you simply shrug off and accept as a part of life. Especially not during formative years.
Most kids of that age are already having a tough enough time as it is going thru all kinds of physical and emotional changes.
Most kids of that age are already struggling with increased expectations and responsibilities while dealing with all kinds of insecurities and uncertainties.
Must be quite daunting to not only deal with those normal difficulties of adolescence but to also carry the burden of being the most hated/targeted person in the country (young black male) around.

Think about it...  
Most adolescents are simply struggling to figure out the world around them and trying to find their place in it.
But as a young black male you're being told constantly seemingly everywhere that you go in no uncertain terms by "the powers that be" that your place is up against the wall with your hands behind your head because nobody likes you or trusts you and for all intents and purposes society-at-large seems to be saying that you aren't welcome.
Stop and frisk may make some people feel safer but it doesn't do shit to make vulnerable young adults feel good about themselves or their place in this world.[/quote]

Exactly. I am all for policing that addresses ACTUAL nuisances and public disorder (like open-air drug dealing, open containers, traffic violations, even littering).  Stop and Frisk is lazy and racist policing.  [/quote]

It kind of depends on what you are talking about. If you are talking about supervisors pressuring officers to pat down X number of people, then yes, that will lead to abusing people's rights and pissing people off.

But if you are talking about a police officer doing a terry pat down for justifiable reasons, then there is nothing wrong with that. Because, you know, bad guys carry guns and might try to shoot the police. [/quote]

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