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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Times World Rankings

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

This has more to do with graduate research.[/quote]

And Michigan comes out ahead once again.[/quote]

As well it should, it spends over a half a billion of your tuition dollars on research every year.  Funny they don't put that in brochures.[/quote]

More likely US tax dollars and private sector partnership dollars, not tuition dollars, but if you understood University research, you would know that.[/quote]

No, you don't understand research.  Those are separate sources. The major sources are externally funded federal, private externally funded, and internal.  Internal usually depends heavily on tuition or state appropriations.  The reason internal is needed is that external does not cover full costs.

[b]You can read this from a former provost:  https://www.changinghighereducation.com/2016/08/the-high-cost-of-funded-research.html
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He claims that for every 1000 external funds there is a $300 internal expense--and his accounting is quite tilted to his conception--counting for instance overhead expenses that are multi-use, not considering faculty lines in typical ways etc. But research grants still then provides 70% more revenue than it costs.  A good portion of this goes directly to the university.  Professors don't get to keep any of their grant money (save for summer salary if they use the money for that) so the revenue goes to paying graduate stipends and tuition and undergraduate work-study students, purchasing equipment that lives on in the university, paying overhead costs (which are also used for many purposes) travel for presenting on research and buying out time that the university would otherwise be paying them as a full-time employees.

And ultimately his claim seems to be not that he has evidence that tuition is used to pay the portion of the internal costs of research but that it might be. And all that is not considering that professors participation in research is what makes them knowledgeable and current and capable of teaching, and that student participation in research is important to their education.

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