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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Also be aware of wide variation in special needs and ELL populations.  Some schools operate specialized classrooms for autism, behavior support, etc.  Some schools refuse to.  Some schools push out the harder kids so their at-risk population is the easier group of at-risk kids.  Some schools have the challenge of mid-year entries, others refuse to share in that work.[/quote]

Yep - I don't think you could use that crosstab data to describe school-level results with any degree of accuracy due to small sample size, population variation between schools, etc. But I do think that there are a bunch of middle and upper middle class black kids (and parents) in DC who are looking at achievement gaps in their schools and citywide and wondering how schools are serving kids like theirs. [/quote]

Totally agree. OSSE might give you the data if you asked.

I am really struck by the number of supposedlly HRCS that have an achievement gap despite having low at-risk and also a substantial population of non-at-risk AA kids, some who are not even low-income.[/quote]

Yep, me too. But if close to half the black kids at a school in the testing grades are at-risk and <2% of the white kids are at-risk (which is kinda roughly how my back of the envelope calculations show it would play out), that is really significant. [/quote]

Yes.  And sometimes the non-at-risk AA kids are not performing very well.  Why??? Schools should be prepared to answer.[/quote]

At our school it's the white kids who are performing lower than the average. And most kids are white. So what does that say? The other races are doing better than expected.[/quote]

I have no clue.  Does grade level analysis reveal any patterns?[/quote]

Hmm, grade 4 and 5, not enough white to assess (so maybe "most" was overstating). Grade 3 was about average. So those few in 4 and 5 tipped it lower than average (for whites). I guess that's not a super big deal but it was similar last year.

It's the same at some other HRCS. I think I figured out why - [b]white data averages are skewed by WOTP DCPS who score very high. Anyone else may expect to score lower, somewhat...[/b] Could that be it? My only question there would be, does this mean WOTP schools are better. or just richer? What do we attribute this to?[/quote]

Not necessarily a WOTP thing.  White kids at Shepherd scored a 94 on both sections, so as well as or better than WOTP schools.[/quote]

Just adding--a few years ago at a meet and greet I recall meeting a white mom who seemed to turn her nose up at Shepherd, stating that CMI seemed to fit her educational philosophy more.  I guess her kids may have actually done better had she sent them to Shepherd (her IB).[/quote]

DP here and never had kids at CMI. Your statement isn't fair. CMI is very good with social emotional skills and more up-to-date child development philosophies, stronger SPED program, etc. Shepherd has very outdated practices, isn't AT ALL progressive, generally falls behind with social emotional skills of teachers, has a very poor SPED program, etc. You could argue that her white child might have scored higher on PARCC if she sent her kids to Shepherd, but that mom was right on target that CMI fit her educational philosophy more if she was looking for a more progressive model.

Kudos to Shepherd for teaching ELA and math to white kids, they deserve that (I won't get into the gap here). We shouldn't diminish this accomplishment, but there are reasons some IB families choose other public options over Shepherd aside from PARCC scores. There's no excuse for how the school operates given the high SES levels of the IB community. Let's see what this school year brings and if the new leadership team can improve some of these weaknesses. I hope they start by inviting all IB residents to discuss the issues and delve into the reasons that many IB parents choose other schools.[/quote]

"Your statement isn't fair" ... proceeds to crap all over a high-performing school with broad sweeping statements.  [/quote]

Above post is logical and honest and I’m sure some people appreciate it.

We don’t have a child at [b]Shepard [/b]but oh come on. It’s obvious from previous posts and many others on DCUM that whenever anyone posts a concern or non stellar post about Shepard, you get attacked, called racist and not want to be around at risk kids, etc.

I don’t know what it is but some Shepard posters are very defensive, have an inferiority concept with WOTP schools, uses the race card, are desperate for their IB families to buy into the school or something.[/quote]

No kidding.

I don't care if people want to go to other schools, I prefer it.  I just thought it was funny that the PP responded to someone saying someting (logical, and appreciated by others, I'm sure) about CMI not having as good of scores by calling it "unfair" and then proceeding to rant about how terrible [i]Shepherd [/i]is, up to and including the teachers having low social emotional skills.  Seems perfectly fair and not at all biased or histrionic.[/quote]

PP just proves my point.   Poster acknowledges weakness and strengths of both schools but PP picks and chooses certain phrases and twists it around to defend Shepard.  Don’t think I need to say more.[/quote]

+1. I would love to know why some of these Shepherd defenders think their neighbors (of all races) are choosing other schools. Hint: It's not racism.

I'm actually pretty angry about this boosterism. DCPS created many of these issues for Shepherd, and having a vocal group that insists that Shepherd doesn't need improvement lets DCPS off the hook for fixing it. [/quote]

The racism card and it’s attacks by Shepard boosters is what stands out to me on DCUM.  Hint: that’s not the way to attract educated nonAA IB families.  [/quote]

What stands out to me is that you're on every Shepherd thread misspelling Shepherd in every post, yet convinced that schools should be working to attract you.  Shepherd isn't taking OOB kids.  It doesn't need to boost its attendance.  [/quote]
Mm

Shepherd is FULL of OOB children - and there’s nothing wrong with that. [/quote]

Agree nothing wrong with OOB at Shepherd; some great OOB families there.  I think PP's point is that the school is almost fully subscribed with IB families in the lower grades, and there's a growing IB waitlist for PK3/4--so no indication that Shepherd is struggling to attract families, whether IB or OOB.[/quote]

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