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Nope. First of all, we’re not talking about graduate school in general, we are talking about law school specifically. Second, my point is that Yale has a much higher representation of Ivy League undergraduate in its law school than any other law school does, including other Ivy League law schools.  I am certainly not saying that other Ivy League law schools do not have significant representation of Ivy League undergraduates.

The original poster on this point asserted that up to 50% of top law school students have undergraduate degree from the Ivy League. That is not true in the case of any law school other than Yale. [/quote]

[b]It's probably reasonably close at Harvard.[/b] They used to publish statistics of the number of kids from each undergraduate institution. Harvard was ~80 kids per class and there ~30 from YPS. The other ivies probably had 10-15 per class. In total, it could be about 40% of the class.

I wouldn't go to Tufts, Emory, or WUSTL over UVA for law school admission prospects though. The higher numbers of students from Ivies reflect test-taking aptitude and a larger percentage of students who want to go to a top law school. Law school admissions are largely GPA/LSAT driven and there are lots of students from public universities at the top law schools. There is a small GPA break for top schools, because a 3.8 at Harvard is considered more difficult than a 3.8 at Directional State, but between these schools any differences in how GPA is viewed will be pretty minor.

In short, the driving factors in this decision should be cost, size of school, location, and other cultural factors. Not law school admission prospects.[/quote]

No, it probably isn't.  According to its most recent on line profile, there are 173 undergrad schools represented among the 560 students in Harvard's 1L class.  There are only 8 Ivy League schools.  So we know at a minimum that 165 students are not Ivy League.  I really doubt that 280 Harvard Law students are from the 8 Ivy League schools and the other 280 are from 165 different schools.

Harvard Law is nearly three times that size of Yale and has a much more diverse representation of undergrad schools.  [/quote]

Harvard used to publish this data. This is outdated, but here are some statistics that have been preserved: https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/law-school/656128-which-schools-for-harvard-law.html About 44% of the school was from Ivies + Stanford. UVA does well, BTW, which isn’t something I dispute. (I was a NP with the above post.) [/quote]

Interesting post, thank you, but yes it is outdated -- almost 15 years old.  I mean, they say there were 120 undergrad schools represented then, but on Harvard's current website the number is 173.  That's 53 more non-Ivy League schools.  And yes, you're right about UVA being well represented, as I've said all along.

I'd be stunned if today's number was 44 percent Ivy.[/quote]

Because as I have said repeatedly you did not go to an ivy not did you send your child to an ivy. Having done both child graduated June 2018 I would expect the majority or at least 40% of the seats at ivy law and business schools to be filled by ivy grads. They were giving out acceptances to undergrads like popcorn. It was not uncommon at graduation to meet kids that had been admitted under the deferred admission program junior or senior year. Don’t you think the reason that The number of undergrads from each school is not supplied is because the number of schools is the more impressive number?? If it was really not insiders baseball they would state it. I think you are as dumb as all of the people who were shocked by the admissions scandal. Of course Ivy League/top law schools favor the Ivy League. Why would they not?  It keeps all the schools on top and $ rolling in. [/quote]

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