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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not OP and haven't read the thread.

Personally I think honorifics should be done away with entirely. I don't think doctors should insist on Dr. I don't think professors should be Prof. I think the use of honorifics perpetuates power imbalances that on the whole aren't good. Let everyone go by first name. And yes, I have honorifics I could use but I don't.

An adult insisting another adult use a title is just cringeworthy behavior to me. [/quote]

I respect your opinion.  Would you consider reading the NYT article linked in this thread to see if any of the issues outlined there might, in your opinion, warrant an exception?  [/quote]

I will find it and read it.

[b]Mostly I find the insistence on honorifics to be the vestiges of a racist and misogynistic history in which those honorifics were used as a way of keeping people who deserved it on their merits out of power. [/b]

You want respect? Earn it based on your behavior, not by insisting another adult address you with a title.[/quote]
I am a woman of color, PhD holder, and professor and you could not be more off base here. 
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Nope. I've been in the trenches myself and I completely disagree with you.[/quote]

DP, I agree with the professor PP.  The NYT article also noted that professors with doctoral degrees who are younger, minority, and/or female are more likely to be referred to by their first names.  Anecdotally, I’ve found this to be true among my academic colleagues who’ve mentioned this issue.[/quote]

The solution is to not use title at all, not to insist other adults use it.

I do make an exception in the military. But beyond that, no.  [/quote]

Why does the military get an exception?[/quote]

Well it should be obvious, but if you are in the service you can't call General Smith, Phil, or Mr.  Smith.  Only other generals can do that.  It's not done, period.  If anyone did that did, it'd be a career-ender.  Being in the military is not like being an undergrad, where you pay to attend and have the option to drop a class if you don't like the prof.  [/quote]

Ohhhh -- so respect should only be shown to people who can coerce it from you.

Well, that's an interested take. Not really very modern, though.[/quote]

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