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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There are only 3 genders...male, female, and mental illness.[/quote]

If you want to live your life like that, then you should live your life like that. However, I hope that you will be polite to everybody. Also, please be aware that, if you are rude to people for being their gender wrong (according to you), there are plenty of people who will have a low opinion of you as a consequence.[/quote]

Only people who haven't taken a biology class. There are only men and women. Men have a penis and women have a vagina. PERIOD[/quote]

The fact that so- called grown, mature adults have to be reminded of this is staggering. [/quote]

Do you deny that intersex people exist?

What about people who had penises, but lost them due to medical incidents or accidents, even combat? They don't have vaginas? Isn't what's in your head important?[/quote]

No what's in "your head" is not important especially since, as evidenced here, what is in a lot of people's heads is very peverted and mixed up. And as to men that have lost organs due to accident- they are still chromosomly and biologically males of course. [b]As are men who wear dresses, change their name to Katie, and pretend to be female[/b]. [/quote]

I have come to realize that here in lies the crux of this issue. The bolded statement, that above does not bother me a lick. Even if its "all wrong", even if there is no biological or societal basis to say that a person IS or IS NOT a certain sex based on what they feel in their head/ or based on their body, it simply does not bother me if someone who is 1 sex wants to "pretend" to be the other sex. It just doesn't. FWIW, I don't think its so simple as pretending to be something or being 100% in the wrong body. But eve if it were, I don't see why that should preclude anyone from any rights or the ability to do that, its just not something that matters to me. Just like the idea that someone is 'born' gay or 'chooses' to live as a gay person, I always kind of partially disliked the  idea that it would be OK to discriminate based on a choice. So what if it IS a choice for some people in the middle of the sexual spectrum or whatever, it doesn't matter to me if its something that feel biological or feels like a choice, it should just be respected as part of humanity.[/quote]

I would care less if people pretending to be the other sex didn't decide they needed to adopt the most extreme stereotypes of gender performance in order to do it. You're a woman? And we know you're a woman because you're wearing ridiculous high heels and always made up a ton and your hair tweaked within an inch of its life? How about being a woman and wear some jeans and a tshirt. Oh, that doesn't make you feel feminine enough? The extreme gender performance makes me think it's more of a fetish than anything else. And it reinforces gender performance which I think is damaging to girls and woman.[/quote]

This bothers me, too.

In a way, I feel like the who gender non-conforming thing is very retro. It seems to me that somehow girls must have a very narrow view of what it means to be a woman if they've decided that wearing jeans and short hair or eschewing makeup means they aren't female but instead are something else. It makes more sense to me that boys might feel GNC, because I think the range of what's acceptable behavior/dress/interests/essence for males is actually more narrow. But as a Gen Xer, I had kind of thought throughout much of my life, we were moving in a direction of wider acceptability for various definitions of "feminine" and "masculine." Now instead it seems like young people have decided that being a "woman" doesn't provide enough space to be oneself. That makes me sad, and puzzled. And, as a woman, it makes me uncomfortable.

That said, I don't really care much what you want to call yourself or how you dress. Just please be clear about what you want to be called, and please don't take offense if I screw up. I'm really not trying to offend.[/quote]

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