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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]It is meaningful. Because ED costs far outweigh the costs of transitioning surgeries. That you've chosen to break it down for "average" soldiers or per soldier is what is not meaningful b/c there are always going to be differences between between each individual. The healthy soldier with no medical history is going to cost less than the "average" soldier with asthma, or who injures him/herself, or who has allergies, or . . . pick your ailment. So, this is a bit of cute maneuvering to do it that way. Overall, the financial argument simply doesn't hold up.

And why ED is identified should be obvious. It's not necessary to be able to get an erection to serve in the military just as it isn't, according to people here, "necessary" to undergo transition while in the military. Yet, one is extensively covered. The other people are bitching and complaining about b/c, let's be honest, it has zero to do with cost and all to do with fear of what they don't know. [/quote]

And, some may have ED as a result of injuries incurred in service.  And, I seriously doubt that many enlistees need Viagara when they enlist.  Let's see that statistic first, please.

And, let's face it--there are plenty of other factors involved.  But, if the DOD starts paying for transgender surgery, I guarantee you that there will be a lot more enlistments from transgenders--and the expense will quickly escalate.

This is a bogus argument.

Also, what is your source for the amount spent on Viagara?  I'd love to see that.

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I [b]agree[/b] that it's necessary for someone who wants elective sex change surgery to get it, just as I think it's necessary for someone with ED to get a Viagra prescription if they seek it (this is not a daily therapy they would need on the front BTW).

I [b]don't agree[/b] that it's necessary for the military to enlist someone who identifies as trans and would seek sex change surgery. There are other reasons enlisting a trans who wanted to serve openly could be problematic, but I am sticking to your medical argument. That person is free to pursue a sex change by other means. Lastly, there is a 17,000 figure being floated for sex changes. What utter nonsense. There is zero way that a full transition costs 17,000. Laughable.[/quote]

Maybe, just the surgeon's fee?  Of course, elective plastic surgery is one of the least expensive surgeries--because the insurance companies are not involved.  But, in this case, if it is deemed "medically necessary"--and it will be--the cost will be far beyond that because insurance companies will be involved.  This probably does not count time in the hospital and the therapy ahead of time--for heaven's sake, therapists are very expensive and it is required prior to surgery, and, I would think, afterwards.

I would think that it would be hard to enlist if you are going through therapy--so, how could a transgender enlist?  Will the rules be different for them?[/quote]

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