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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Would you tell your own child to follow and harass the police for hours, then block traffic and then drive away once confronted by the police? [/quote]

Would you tell your child to shoot someone in the face three times for blocking the road?[/quote]

If after they blocked the road and then tried to run me over, yes.

Do you know the first thing an officer tells a drunk as they are pleading to be let go and they’ll take an uber? They say, in your condition we have no idea what harm you may have caused tonight in your condition. We are doing this for everyone’s safety.

In Renee’s case, it was her own safety she sacrificed, and for what.[/quote]

Would you tell your daughter to get out of the vehicle and go with the unidentified masked men screaming in her face and pointing a gun at her?  Or would you tell her to drive away?[/quote]

I would tell my daughter not to disrupt a lawful proceeding and to obey the people she knows are police. In the victim's case, she brought a car to a gun fight.[/quote]

That's fine, but what if she just happens to be in a place where ICE rolls in? There is no telling where these days.  [/quote]

I would follow all their directives and teach my kids the same. Don't antagonize. Don't taunt. Don't make waves. [/quote]

Because the lesson learned is that ICE may murder you.[/quote]

I live in a large city, value my privacy, and try to keep a low profile. I would never choose to taunt or show disrespect to any law enforcement person for any reason. When I ride public transportation, I do the same. Too many unstable, trigger-happy people in this modern world. [/quote]

You fit the profile of a collaborator.

For anyone else interested in history, people like PP are the ones who enable the actively evil folks, through their immediate acquiescence fueled by cowardice.[/quote]

Your opinion means nothing. Survival so that I can be a mother to my young children means much more to me than dying as a martyr and leaving my child with no mother or father. . [/quote]

NP and I won't call you a collaborator. I totally understand and have been thinking a lot about the privilege I have attending protests because a) I am white b) I have the means to call a lawyer immediately c) I am I over 50 and my kids don't need me the way they used to. I think about these privileges every time I attend a protest with the awareness that 10-15 years ago, I would not have dared to make the same choices.

But that said, it would have been a choice to prioritize one responsibility over another. I would not have changed my understanding of injustice. And I would have been grateful of those who took on the risks.

I think PPs are reacting negatively because sounds like you are implicitly criticizing the person who makes a different decision instead of criticizing the person who murdered her.[/quote]

Thank you for taking the time to post this comment. Although not in every post, I have actually said several times that she didn't deserve to die and that he was wrong. I still believe we all make choices and that results/consequences may not be fair, rational, or what we wanted. Life can be very hard. My children are my priority. [/quote]

If you are saying you would fear to protest injustice, because you don't want to lose your life and orphan your children, that says a lot about how far this country has fallen.  The Trump administration has made us as bad as all the other horrible autocracies we watch in horror as they kill their own people.[/quote]

You don't have young kids?[/quote]

Read the post again.  A person with or without kids in American should not fear for their LIFE [b]going to a protest.  [/b]Might they get arrested, depending on the situation, sure.  But shot in the head three times?

Stop defending murder.  Stop defending this as business as usual in America.  In America, peaceful protest should not end up with you being shot.  There is zero evidence in those multiple videos that the shooting was justified.  It was a trigger-happy, angry ICE agent who created a situation so he could shoot someone.  He belongs in jail.[/quote]

She was not protesting, she was committing a crime. There’s a difference. Interfering with a police investigation is a crime. [/quote]

Since when is waving cars around your car a crime?  ICE are not police and were not conducting an investigating.  They were driving by and created an incident where there didn't need to be one.  Trigger-happy thugs.  You are nuts.  You believe cold blooded murder is ok.  Please stay away from the rest of us you lunatic.[/quote]

You clearly missed the footage of what she was doing 10 min prior to ICE arrival. Go back and rewatch it.

Ice was not driving by, they were in the middle of their operation. Please stay away from the rest of us, you lunatic. [/quote]

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