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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you've followed these threads, these boundary changes have been described at times as the "Great Reset."

I think that is what Reid and the School Board want.  They want to make so many changes that anyone who objects will just be part of the noise (thereby canceling each other out); they want to change the demographics at some schools so much that the historic reputations of some schools will be rendered meaningless; and they want to make grandfathering impossible, so that kids will be shell-shocked and families will be sent the clear message that their preferences count for nothing and that Reid and the School Board are in charge.  "If you don't like it, you can leave (see PP today), but don't expect us to let you get in our way."[/quote]

What is the meaning of "historic reputation" in the context of FCPS's public schools? It's not like there is any selectivity for students to be allowed attend. Only TJHSST and private schools have a claim to a reputation of selective standards that makes any real sense. The rest only amounts to chitchat amongst neighbors.[/quote]

DP. we get it, you don’t like the USNews or great schools rankings.[/quote]

Does anyone actually pay attention to those rankings except new parents looking for houses who don't know better? You're an idiot if you think those actually reflect anything other than wealth in an area.[/quote]

DP. Which schools do your children attend? Serious question.[/quote]

Shrevewood, which is rated 3 because of a high low-income population. High achieving kids from high achieving families are all doing great. I'm happy with the education my children are receiving.[/quote]

DP.  I’d read some Shrevewood parents aren’t crazy about the recent proposals, which would move more low-income kids from Timber Lane to Shrevewood and also reassign some Shrevewood kids from the Falls Hill area from Marshall to McLean, turning Shrevewood into a split feeder. The ratings for Kilmer may also take a hit if, as proposed, all the Madison-zoned kids at Kilmer are reassigned to Thoreau.

Putting the validity of GS ratings aside, do you welcome all these changes?  I assume the Shrevewood boundaries will change yet again after Dunn Loring gets built. [/quote]

[b]Shrevewood[/b] is an interesting situation because a few years pre-Covid parents were saying the school was overcrowded and FCPS should do something.
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Then, the situation largely took care of itself, as the enrollment declined.[/b]  To the point where the 4/11 proposals contemplate moving 119 students into Shrevewood from another school that also isn't currently overcrowded.

Meanwhile Karl Frisch went ahead and starting pushing the Dunn Loring ES, which isn't really needed.  But maybe if they overcrowd Shrevewood again they can squint hard and pretend it is.  [/quote]

So was the decline based on students aging out of elementary school?  [b]Kilmer is grotesquely overcrowded.[/b]  Even with a 10 room modular it is 118% and only gets 20 in for AAP and a total of 39 from Thoreau.  How is it possible that Kilmer, with no expansion of Kilmer Center square footage, lost about 200 program capacity seats?  That is Providence District - Karl Fritsch.

CIP 25-29		984	modular 	1227 [10 rooms]
CIP 26-30		791	modular	1023 [10 rooms
difference		193		204

Westbriar Island and Westbriar are under Meren-Hunter Mill District.  The Island is between Sunrise Valley [Meren] and Colvin Run {Lady]yet Thru or Thru/FCPS moved it to Wolf Trap.
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So Sunrise Valley is to the west of the Westbriar island, Colvin Run is to the east and north, and Wolftrap (not "Wolf Trap") is to the south.

Moving the island to Wolftrap, which is already a fairly even split feeder to Madison and Marshall, aligns with keeping those families at Kilmer/Marshall.  Sunrise Valley feeds to Hughes/South Lakes, and Colvin Run feeds to Cooper/Langley.  Ever since Colvin Run opened, Westbriar kids in the island have been bussed past Colvin Run on their west to Westbriar.  Going to Wolftrap is a straight shot south down Beulah Road.  This is actually one of the changes that probably makes sense.

[b]It's not credible that Kilmer only has a program capacity of 791 without the modular.  The school got renovated in the early 2000s and they would not have left it with so little capacity.  Something funny is going on there but, with Frisch as the board member and Kilmer plunked in Region 5 with the rest of the Marshall pyramid, no one seems to be in any hurry to figure out why there was such a big drop in the stated capacities.[/b]  [/quote]

What would you do about Kilmer?  I posted that stuff including the Karl Fritsch Kilmer mystery. Decades ago it was an undercapacity dump with no AAP/GT...now way over and divested of most transfer in AAP.

So the current island can get to Colvin Run from Beulah driving through Shouse Village.  It's a shorter distance than Wolftrap and would move some out of Kilmer.  [/quote]

The Kilmer renovation was over 20 years ago but it was a nice renovation at the time.  There's no way that, excluding the modular, it should only have a program capacity of 791.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the formulas that apply to the special programs at the Kilmer Center are being erroneously applied to Kilmer MS, but that's speculation.  They really need to audit the building capacity there.

Both Longfellow and Kilmer got overcrowded with AAP kids from the Langley pyramid at some point, as AAP kids from Great Falls zoned for Cooper went to Kilmer and AAP kids from McLean zoned for Cooper went to Longfellow.  Adding AAP to Cooper was a good idea and relieved some of the burden at both schools.  Without the Cooper kids, Kilmer's demographics are less affluent, but Kilmer is actually better run now that it used to be.  It's sending a lot of kids to TJ and, more importantly, most of the families are happy with the current administration.

The Westbriar island could have been moved to Colvin Run, but it probably would have been part of a multi-step adjustment where Colvin Run kids were then moved to Great Falls, Great Falls kids were moved to Forestville, and Forestville kids were moved to Herndon feeders like Dranesville and Armstrong.  If they were moved to Colvin Run, they should be moved to Cooper and Langley as well, and then you'd have the same Langley parents who aren't happy that the Tysons island at Spring Hill is probably moving to Cooper/Langley complaining about this as well.  Moving the island to Wolftrap, which already has a lot of kids bound for Kilmer and Marshall, is simpler.  [/quote]

The Westbriar island has only $1M+ SFHs; nothing like the apartment-heavy Tysons island.  The Westbriar island looks more like the Shouse/wolftrap neighborhoods that got moved from mclean to Langley a couple years back.[/quote]

That’s true.  But what’s your point?  The Langley parents would be happy with yet more expensive SFHs but not the Tysons island with apartments?

My point was that, if some aren’t happy with the influx of kids from Spring Hill putting Cooper and Langley slightly over capacity they’d be unhappy with Westbriar kids on top of that.  No one at Wolftrap will complain about this island moving there and they already go to Kilmer and Marshall.  [/quote]

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