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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If she was such a perfect pilot let’s see her military records and all of her flight history. When was the last time she flew before the night in question? [b]And who was the VIP they just dropped off?[/b] [/quote]

What difference does the VIP make? This question keeps getting asked but I don't get how it would matter in the sequence of events that led to the cash. [/quote]

How would the crash have happened at all if a VIP didn’t not want a ride? Not sure how you can’t see that.

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No one onboard the BH made that decision. They took orders. [/quote]

See posts above if you really want to know why it matters to know the VIP.

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The point is, the 3 onboard did not CHOOSE to get that VIP. they are being vilified. [/quote]

We want to know who the VIP was to know whether it waa truly an essential VIP trip. No one is
Blaming the crew for following orders. This goes above their heads.[/quote]

The pilots need to fly regularly to keep their skills and hours up.  They need to fly these specific routes regularly too as part of their training- as they were doing and getting signed off on that night.  If not flying VIPs they still have to fly the hours and routes needed to keep proficient, even if not flying a VIP. How to do expect them to maintain skills?  You think they can just circle over some open fields a few times per week and call it good?[/quote]

Are you really this dense? No one is saying they don’t need training hours - only that the VIP flight may be the reason this “training” was shoehorned into such a dangerous time and place. The MAGA brain is so low wattage. Unreal. [/quote]

Are YOU that dense? This particular night route was needed for their annual recertification- with or without the VIP drop off prior.  They weren’t learning how to fly, it’s an annual sign off that they should have been able to do with zero issue.  There was nothing at all complicated about it, the other plane did what it was supposed to do, ATC did what it was supposed to do.  If the helicopter followed the very clear instructions and guidelines, everyone would be fine.  But they didn’t.  There is no indication of why this was anything but a routine flight [/quote]

You can do a night route at 11pm though. You don't have to do it at a peak time for the airport. Especially for a training route, you'd think that that whoever assigned this training would have taken into account that this was a less experienced pilot, and especially given the myriad of close calls around National, including some in recent days, involving military helicopters, this particular training should not be scheduled for 8pm.

Unless the training was simply tacked on after a VIP drop off that had to happen at 7pm because the VIP said so.[/quote]
I think the "training" was a tack on after ubering some coddled VIP home. Stressing that it was a "training" flight is fully meant to divert attention from the fact that someone got special treatment. The public should know who it was and why they had to take a BH home instead of a motor vehicle, like an ordinary mortal.[/quote]

So what? This helicopter should be able to easily navigate the skies of DC at any time day or night in nearly any condition. You know they are meant to fly in war, right? The VIP trips make up a large part of their required flying hours[/quote]

DC is not a warzone. It is largely civilian airspace. Safety needs to be the priority, not war games. [/quote]

I understand that.  But the point is these pilots should be skilled enough to go to war. And here we are, helicopter crashing into jet on a total normal flight for no obvious reason other than just poor flying skills. Hopefully the investigation sheds light on something, some other reason, otherwise we have to take a good hard look at pilots and their training- both to keep them and us safe and so they have the skills they need for complicated and dangerous conditions [/quote]

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