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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]I do believe in fact, that Islam does kill gay men, that they support killing gay men, and that it is much more than a small minority that believe this to be ok.  [/quote]

These are your words. No argument, right? So, just drop your protestations that you only oppose "radical" Muslims. The words that you type clearly show that you attribute to an entire religion the deeds of a small minority. The vast majority of Muslims do not kill gay men and do not support killing gay men. This is a misrepresentation based in your Islamophobia.
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Does the government of, say, Iran, prosecute the murder of gay individuals? How about Syria? The Washington Post had this to say:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-double-threat-for-gay-men-in-syria/2014/04/25/30117ee2-ca3a-11e3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html

it's not a 'phobia' to state the truth, that a particular religion has persecuted gays in countries that do not prosecute it, because they condone it.

It is, however, bigoted to minimize the horror gay individuals face in these countries. Congrats. You've earned it.

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I believe you have conveniently forgotten the persecution gay men face from others as well. I'll just leave these here:

http://m.thenation.com/blog/179191-its-not-just-uganda-behind-christian-rights-onslaught-africa

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/04/pastor-calls-for-killing-gays-to-end-aids/19929973/

http://m.christianpost.com/news/bible-says-gays-should-be-executed-and-i-believe-every-word-says-arizona-pastor--99583/

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Does that justify Islam's horrific track record re: gay people? I'd say no.[/quote]

It doesn't justify it, no.  But it should signify that you should not single out Islam as homophobic  when other religions also have this issue.  You can fight against homophobic regimes, nations, politics, but to single out Islam over other equally homophobic religions for that issue is just bigoted.

Some of the anti-Muslim posters have singled out Islam for their homophobic issues, despite the fact that it has been pointed out that these issues are common in other religions as well including Christianity (as illustrated above).

Some anti-Muslim posters have denounced Islam for FGM, yet the issue is not a religious issue.  This is a practice that is common on the continent of Africa in multiple nations, many of which are Muslim, but also common in several other nations, including Christian ones.

The point is that yes, many Muslims have these deplorable practices, but these practices are not a part of their religion, but usually part of the culture or nation.  Some of us are saying don't blame the religion for non-religious practices performed by some members.  Otherwise it would be appropriate to blame all of Christianity for the deplorable behavior of the Westboro Baptist Church.  Or for abortion house bombings. [/quote]

The act of terror part of their religion. Denying that is simply a smokescreen. To uncouple religion and culture is ridiculous, though I know it's something progressives have to do in order to justify deplorable actions.

The Westboro Baptist Church is one tiny group in Kansas who cannot do much damage, and hasn't, unless you consider carrying signs and calling names damage. . Radical Islam, on the other hand, is responsible for much mayhem and murder.  I have not heard much public outcry from Muslims around the world, condemning the actions of Radicals. They are either complicit or fearful, the latter of which I can at least understand, considering how brutal radicals are. I know many who escaped here, that express that fear and are outraged at the foolishness of those think they understand or think they are being 'wise' and 'compassionate'. They thought they were safe here. They now no longer believe that is so.

There is also the 'under the hood' sponsoring of terror, i.e. those that publicly speak against it, but otherwise fund it. Progressive democrats are in the process of providing a path to nuclear weapons to a nation that does just that. The foolishness of this move, is astounding, but I have to say, given the track record of progressive democrats have for completely screwing up anything they touch (Chicago, Detroit, New York City as examples), I am not surprised. [/quote]

Yet radical Islam is still one tiny group.

Mainstream Muslims around the world condemn the radicals.  But how would you hear them, given where you get your news sources?  Did it ever occur to you that most of the people fighting ISIS are Muslims?  [/quote]

Not so tiny. And certainly quite dangerous and well funded. And Isis aren't the only dangerous factions.

Blaming sources doesn't make the point wrong. [/quote]

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