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[b]If he is Christian living in an Arab country, then the applicable law is not Islamic inheritance law, but the church inheritance law. [/b] In Arab countries, matters of personal status are dealt with by the religious institutions.  Most unfortunately, in these countries Islamic inheritance laws are so deeply embedded that all of the church inheritance laws look just like the Islamic inheritance laws.

If he cares about his wife he would sell their house if he owns it and would rent.  The money from the sale would be used to buy jewelry for her--that is hers to keep, no one can touch it.  Or he could send it to bank overseas in her name.  No one would be able to touch that either. But he is likely is brainwashed into the system and no doubt has deluded himself that his brothers will support his wife if he dies so sees no need to do anything.  I have to agree, she should get a job and start saving.[/quote]

Nope, not true!  Non-muslims are stuck with Islamic inheritance laws!  Just a note to the people reading this- these "Islam" threads are chock full of misinformation.

The rest of your post is similarly ridiculous.  I'm sorry, the year is 2014, not 1014.  You cannot place all of your assets in jewelry.  Please tell me you know that when you walk out of the store with a bauble, it loses more than half its value (like a car!).  And you keep making assumptions about this story- that the husband is Muslim-nope, that he thinks his family will take care of his wife-nope, that they have choices about what country to live in- not really, not everybody is a rich European/American like yourself.[/quote]

First, when I came in you had pointed out that your friend's husband was Christian.  I am married to an Arab Christian and lived in the Middle East.   So I made it my business to know how the laws of personal status worked.

You didn't read the post carefully enough.  Christians in Arab countries are not subject to inheritance laws administered by Islamic courts.  There are subject to the inheritance laws of their church.  These are the same as the Islamic inheritance laws--BUT the state does not force the churches to do this.  The churches could change the inheritance laws applicable to Christians any time they wished but they continue to follow the approach set down in the Koran because it is so embedded in the culture.

Again, the Christian churches in the Middle East are not required to follow Islamic inheritance--they choose to do so because it is embedded in the culture.  There are strong expectations that male relatives will support female relative (whether Muslim or Christian), so it is a safeguard against penury, but human nature is human nature and so many will not follow through on the support.  If the woman makes this known, the male relative will get a bad reputation.  That was very bad for him long ago when everyone knew each other in their village or small neighborhood within the city, but those social constraints are going fast and men are pretty free today to be as jerky as they please to their female relatives.

And you clearly know nothing about buying gold in the Middle East.  Bracelets, rings, etc are sold by the weight--there is a very de minimis add on for craftsmanship.  So no, jewelry in the Middle East does not lose half its value when you step out the door.  It is a reliable store of value for millions of women across the Arab world.  And I did not suggest she place all her assets in gold--I suggested a foreign bank account as an alternative.

I find it interesting that you are so quick to accuse others of being so full of misinformation, when your information is so questionable.  Really have no idea what point you are trying to make with this story of your friend--am beginning to think it was made it up to make some obscure point.[/quote]

omg, calm down.  I am pointing out that Islamic inheritance laws suck.  All laws based on religion suck, but Islamic laws are particularly misogynistic.  Further, I am not talking about rich people, I am talking about a person with a little bit of money, and an apartment in a building that is all her husband's family.  They're not going to sell the apartment to a stranger because people with family property don't like to do that for safety and other reasons.  Probably when he passes, someone in his family will take the apartment and that is the end of that.  And she'll have basically nothing, and I am not privy to all of the financial decisions that led to that, good or bad.  I don't know every tiny detail about their decision making process, I just know that it is a shitty situation for everyone.  And I am from the middle east and I know nobody that puts a substantial amount of assets into gold because that is just pure stupid.[/quote]

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