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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This looks like a very specific DC Urban Moms / NYC private-school parent prestige ranking, not a ranking of current academic quality or where families are applying today. A few things jump out immediately: 1. Trevor at #35 is wildly out of sync with current reality That’s the biggest thing. Whether someone loves Trevor or not, putting it: * below Dwight * below Calhoun * below Lycée * below UNIS * below Xavier * below Fordham Prep * below Notre Dame would surprise most people involved in Manhattan admissions today. This feels like a ranking frozen around the early 2000s, when Trevor had a much weaker reputation. 2. Nightingale is too low Nightingale at #14 is hard to justify. Most current observers would place Nightingale closer to: * Dalton * Spence * Chapin * Sacred Heart than to schools ranked 15–25. 3. Sacred Heart is too low Same issue. Many NYC families would rank Sacred Heart above: * Marymount * Grace Church * Packer * Poly * Avenues without much hesitation. 4. Avenues is probably too low Avenues is polarizing, but #19 feels low. Many current families would place it somewhere in the 10–15 range. 5. Grace Church is probably too low Grace at #16 feels low given current demand and outcomes. 6. The top is mostly old-school prestige The placement of: * Trinity * Collegiate * Dalton * Spence * Brearley * Horace Mann * Chapin is very much a traditional prestige ranking. You can argue over the exact order, but that’s clearly the logic. What the ranking is really measuring If I had to guess, this ranking is measuring: “If you gathered wealthy NYC private-school alumni aged 50–75 and asked them to rank schools by prestige.” For that purpose, it actually makes sense. That’s why: * Trevor is #35. * Grace is #16. * Avenues is #19. * Nightingale is #14. * Sacred Heart is #13. Those schools have improved dramatically relative to where they sat in the old hierarchy. My biggest disagreement If we’re talking 2025–2026 perception among active Manhattan parents, I’d probably move: Up * Nightingale * Sacred Heart * Grace Church * Avenues * Trevor Down * Loyola (slightly) * Xavier * Notre Dame * Dwight * UNIS The Trevor placement is the one that makes me think the list is mostly historical prestige. I could see reasonable people putting Trevor at #10, #15, even #20. But #35 says more about where Trevor was a generation ago than where it is today. So my overall take is: As a historical-prestige ranking: 8/10. As a current-market Manhattan parent ranking: maybe 5/10. The further down the list you go, the more it seems to undervalue schools whose reputations have risen in the last 10–20 years.[/quote] I, too, can type a ranked list of schools into chatGPT and have it evaluate the order with a leading question of whether or not this prestige ranking is still current, and get a biased response based on my leading question. [/quote]
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