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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For historical reasons, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton remain preeminent. However, since none take students in Early Decision, it's a smaller pool of top students that go there. Many of the best students are committed elsewhere and don't even apply to HYP.

As for the rest of the Ivies, there are at least a dozen schools that are often better choices than Penn, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth. It depends on the kid and what they want to study and do. This is especially prominent in STEM, which is where a lot of the smart kids are these days. No one chooses Yale or Harvard or Brown or Dartmouth or Columbia for engineering when they have [b]Stanford[/b], MIT, Rice, Georgia Tech, [b]Berkeley, CalTech[/b] and so on.[/quote]

Even in this day-and-age a large percentage of kids will be limited either by their own hesitance or their parents about going to school 3,000 miles from home, nor are they excited to attend college in Houston (which is also 2000 miles away).

There are many kids who won't consider traveling to one coast or the other for college, no matter what.

I guarantee you there are quite a few who would turn down Ga Tech for Harvard or Yale even for engineering.

I will give you MIT.[/quote]

There are tons of families on the West Coast that will happily send their kids to Princeton. And there are tons of families on the East Coast that will happily send their kids to Stanford. And typically, they have the resources to manage a plane ticket to go back and forth on holidays. Whether a student goes some miles away to Boston, Houston, San Francisco, Chicago, wherever isn't really a factor for most of these students at this level of schools. All the Ivies and comparable colleges are national schools. [/quote]

Sure there are tons...but there is a reason like 36% of all Stanford undergrads are from CA and over 50% are from CA plus WA, OR, NV.  You see similar percentages for Rice with like 39% from TX.

CA is the most populous state, but only 15% of Harvard students are from CA...the same as from MA which is a much smaller state.

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California and Texas are gigantic states. There's like 80 million people in those two states alone. Saying Stanford and Rice get 30+ percent from those two states is kind of pointless. There's so much talent in those two states they could take 100 percent of their students in-state with no drop off in quality. But they don't. Comparing student profiles with schools in tiny states like Massachusetts and Rhode Island isn't particularly useful. Harvard and Brown need to get decent students from elsewhere. Colleges in California and Texas could fill their classes ten times over with strong students without leaving the state.   [/quote]

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