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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m not a trump/Maga fan but democrats pushing the concept of redistricting to be anti trump is really starting to go too far. You are making the rest of the party sound crazy and I wish you would stop. I’m voting no because it’s wrong, blatantly, and even the politicians can’t defend it with logical reasons.[/quote] I just found this thread and have only read the last couple of pages so maybe this has been asked and answered but... how can you possibly say this after Texas? How can there be a self-righteous tone or a morally superior position when the Supreme Court has [i]already[/i] allowed the GOP to do this very thing? I don't like it. I wish it wasn't allowed. But it's suicidal to let one side do it and then act sanctimonious when the other side says my turn.[/quote] You make is sound like this all started with Texas. BOTH sides are guilty of gerrymandering. The Dems did it in IL, NY, CA (even before Prop 50) and MD, to name a few. This difference is that in Virginia, we fixed it in 2020 with a constitutional amendment that created a bi-partisan commission that works. Now you want to blow that up, arguing that two wrongs make a right? And that the end justifies the means? You wouldn't accept that logic from you kids, would you?[/quote] Texas absolutely started this. Congressional maps are supposed to be drawn right after the release of the U.S. Census. If a map is redrawn mid-decade, it is because a federal found a violation of the Voting Rights Act or the Constitution and had ordered a state to fix it. Redrawing a map like this?? Texas did it first in 2003, then Georgia did it a couple years later. Both to GOP advantage. Since then no state has done this until 2025: Texas, Missouri, North Carolina, and Ohio. All to GOP advantage. g? No, I don't think two wrongs make a right and I don't think the ends justify the means. But the Supreme Court is allowing this and saying these are the legal rules. How can you possibly say it is not fair for Virginia to do the same thing?[/quote] Rather than answering your question directly and risk being accused by the paranoid poster at 14:18 of being "paid by MAGA" (good grief), here's what the WaPo Editorial Board said: "The self-styled democracy party isn’t behaving democratically. Democrats in Richmond are trying to effectively disenfranchise millions of Virginians by redrawing congressional maps to give themselves 10 of the commonwealth’s 11 House seats — giving Democrats control of 91 percent of House seats in a state where Republicans lost the last presidential election by just six points. Most know better, including the governor. Abigail Spanberger was among the two-thirds of Virginians who voted in 2020 to transfer once-a-decade redistricting from the legislature to a bipartisan commission. 'Gerrymandering is detrimental to our democracy,' she said back then. On Friday, Spanberger signed a bill to schedule an April 21 referendum that would move it back. The governor said it was necessary 'to let voters respond to extreme measures taken by other states.'"[/quote]
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