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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer.  I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.  [/quote]

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.[/quote]

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient? [/quote]

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis[/quote]

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds. [/quote]
Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.[/quote]

Never threatened others with violence? Looks like he had a physical altercation with his sister. Someone in here acted like that was totally normal, but I don’t agree with that. She tried to force him out of the house and he grabbed her hands. What’s up with that? [/quote]
I agreed above that the sister's claim that Brian wasn't violent, then mentioning he grabbed her hands didn't line up. But no one called the police, no one pressed charges at the time. And maybe the sister was more the aggressor during that argument, who knows?

So now mom calls the police and says, hey, my 28yo son got into an argument with his sister 7 years ago and they both were fighting each other, but my son secured her hands so she couldn't hurt him, so will you please commit him to a mental facility because he might be violent in the future?

It's just not practical to lock up all these people with odd behaviors. We stand a better chance if they have threatened strangers with unexplained violence, police were involved, charges were involved, etc. But getting into a shoving match with your sibling and grabbing her hands to keep her from hitting you or hitting you back? I just don't think this rises to locking people up or forcing them into psychiatric care and forced meds.[/quote]

Well, there were certainly signs at work:

“She said Kohberger would stand at the assistant’s desk, even directly behind her at times, looking over her shoulder as she worked. Another professor was asked to escort the assistant to her car after work because of Kohberger’s behavior, according to the documents.

One student said whenever she looked up, Kohberger, who was a teaching assistant in her class, was “always” staring, according to the records. He rarely spoke to students, she told police. She felt he would time his exit to leave when she did and then follow her to her car.”
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“Mark my word, I work with predators, if we give him a PhD, that’s the guy that in many years when he is a professor, we will hear is harassing, stalking, and sexually abusing … his students,” one of Kohberger’s teachers told her colleagues during the meeting, according to the documents.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19/us/kohberger-washington-state-university-peers-police-interviews-hnk[/quote]
PP you responded to, and yes, these are scary behaviors. When I last read about the case, I heard Brian was about to lose his TA position. I don't know if kicking him out as a student would have been the next step.

But it's so hard to leap from these weird, disturbing behaviors, to taking these behaviors to a court of law and asking the state to arrest him and/or "lock him up"?

I just don't see how we only siphon out the bad guys who will go on to do heinous things, without locking up a bunch of weirdos who we worry might do terrible things, but would have just continued to be oddballs who never became violent.[/quote]

We need to at least move past the idea that nobody could have seen this coming because he was acting perfectly normal.[/quote]

I don't think anyone has ever claimed that he behaved perfectly normal. I think the issue is that you would normally expect some history of escalating acts of violence before someone commits a quadruple murder, and we just have no evidence of that. Yes, staring at women and making them uncomfortable is bad. Yes, getting into an argument with his sister where he was restraining her hands is not an example of a normally functioning person. But neither of those things make me think he's literally about to murder someone. They make me think he sounds troubled, he should see a therapist, he might have anger management or a neurological issues, etc.

But not that he is a murderer. He wasn't normal, but if all we knew about him was what his family or employer knew, I would not have expected him to kill anyone. Even the comment by the professor in that meeting concerning him at school, what was her concern? That he would get his PhD and become a professor who harasses and assaults students. That's awful and I'm really glad she spoke up. But that's not the same as murder.

I feel like the only way you could have anticipated he would do this is if his purchase of the knife online had been flagged in a way that had alerted his family or employer, or if, as people suspect, he was casing this house for some time before the murder, that behavior had been known and flagged to his family or employer. But how?[/quote]

I find it impossible to believe his family didn’t have some inkling of what he was really like. He seems deeps disturbed at best. The sister is being dishonest.[/quote]

His sister is more than dishonest.  It is quite obvious she also suffers from severe mental illness .[/quote]

Exactly. The lesson here isn't "Welp! What can we do! Nobody could have seen this coming!" But it's to make sure kids get the support and diagnoses they need from a very young age. Clearly Bryan didn't. His parents and family failed him. [/quote]

This guy brutally murdered four people.

And your take away is that it was his family's fault?

I have crappy parents. They had kids young, were immature people, were abusive and neglectful.

I have never and will never murder anyone.

This crime is the fault of one person.[/quote]

Does your profile look like his? Nobody, but his sister, has come to bat for this guy. Nobody was like "he was so sweet! I can't imagine!" He was a social pariah. But for his sister to come out and talk about the heart she made for him and the candles she'll blow out for him seems totally disconnected from reality. [/quote]

So the murders are his family's fault for failing him and not getting him the help he needed, but now also his sister is a bad person for saying she still loves him and is trying to offer him some family and community in prison.

She grew up in the same home he grew up in. She was his peer, not his mother. And now sometimes it's her fault he didn't get more help as a teenager, her fault he murdered people, but also her fault for loving and supporting him now (while also being very clear that she is not defending what he did and saying she thinks about the victims all the time and recognizes the victims' families have it much, much worse).

What's your solution? She should never have a job, never be happy, never find any peace in all this at all, as punishment for... what exactly? What did she do?[/quote]

She needs to change her name and stay out of the media.  Seriously.  I am not sure if she is working or can even get a job, but her last name will always be associated with the Idaho murders.[/quote]

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