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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Another reason why Berkeley is on the same level with HYP, this years Nobel Prize in Physics is shared between UC Berkeley and UC Santa Barbara.[/quote]A top tier place to be a professor, for sure. Doesn't have much to do with the undergrad experience, unlike at HYP where the prestige trickles down mich more regularly[/quote]

What people don’t understand about prestige, it’s in the eye of the beholder. In some circles like specific industries and majors, the popular prestige metric doesn’t hold anymore. Berkley is a valid choice among HYPSM and I’d add here Chicago and Caltech. Also in the job market it’s a threshold you need to pass not a raking, a degree from Berkeley will get you in the door just as any other from top schools, the rest is on you.

I see in state kids that are sensitive to cost choosing Berkeley and I know many that went to HYPSM for grad school.[/quote]
In state kids going there for cost reasons is one thing (similar to UVA). It is something altogether different to claim you are also going to an equivalent school. Nobody would choose Berkeley oos over these schools unless something is wrong with them or they are internationals who don’t know any better because they conflate international grad school rankings with undergrad study.[/quote]

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