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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Defining merit as scores high on a standardized test isn’t deciding based on merit.[/b] Deciding based on who has the most APs when many schools offer few or no APs is not deciding based on merit. Working hard to prep for or game a test is not the same as working hard in college or life. GPA is even a good indicator as schools vary widely, cheating can be rampant, and some parents ensure their kid knows the material for the entire class before they sit down on the first day. [/quote Standardized tests are the single most reliable and objective measure of academic merit. We have known this since before WWII. We decided tests were less important when we elevated the hierarchy of oppression over the hierarchy of competence.[/quote] Standardized tests USED to be reliable before the Internet and test prep sector explosion. Americans are not above cheating, look at the Aunt Becky scandals but other countries especially China take cheating and gaming tests to a whole other level and at scale. India and Korea are not far behind. At our elementary school, I was the volunteer coordinator for a year. Asian parents were always vying for the copy position. This is where you make copies of the worksheets and tests for the teachers. This prechromebook times. It was a boring tedious job. I found out it’s because they wanted access to the material a year or two ahead so their kids could practice and have an edge to get into the CES. Geez I thought that was crazy but the stuff that goes on now makes that pretty tame. [/quote] Some Asian parents have their kids take classes in the summer ( the same ones for next year), just to make sure kids know everything before the semester starts and get As. Haha. Kids learn the same classes twice.[/quote] Not just Asians. I know a HYPSM student who studied calc bc in 11th with a tutor so he could take the exam to get into a prestigious summer program. He is adopted. Native American. Adopted by white Harvard grad. Even with the uRM and legacy designation, they did this! Crazy but he got into H and M. [/quote] Thank you for providing an example of how a person of any race might do this. Meanwhile, my 100% Asian kid took Calc BC in 9th grade and has never had a tutor, taken an enrichment course, repeated a class, or even utilized a single math flash card in their life. Then again, they are also great at humanities, plus have significant non-academic interests. They got into their first choice HYPSM in December.[/quote]
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