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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just stop with all the fearmongering. [b]There is no information about the health of the child who died.[/b] I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died  from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down. [/quote]

Yes, there is information. They died from measles, a wholly preventable disease.[/quote]

Preexisting conditions?[/quote]
Let's pretend the child had diabetes. What is your next step, after obtaining that information? I'm genuinely confused about why you need this information. [/quote]

I'm not the anti-vax PP you were responding to but I came to this thread to figure out why I'm seeing people online talk about this child who died.

They seem to be saying the child who died of measles, actually was hospitalized with RSV AND Pneumonia as well and then picked up measles in the hospital.

I've seen that two places now. But they won't cite their source of that information. I came here to see if anyone was also saying that?  But apparently not.

Anyhow - that's what is going around the anti-vax, measles isn't that big a deal TikTok world - the child had "pre existing conditions" of RSV and Pneumonio, and then acquired measles while in the hospital.  So they didn't die "of measles".

[b]Even *if* that information were true (again - no source for it) -- STILL -- they would have died of the measles.  Because a sick child in the hospital should not be getting measles - which could kill him in his weakened state. That's exactly why you vaccinate your kids - so if they are sick with other things, vaccine preventable diseases don't kill them.[/quote][/b]

This is what people don’t seem to understand. [/quote]

What you don't understand is that pneumonia is deadly in and of its own. In fact it's very dangerous for you to not understand it because vaccination against respiratory viruses isn't going to guarantee protection from bacterial pneumonia that can kill you.  You should always get an xray after you feel like you cannot get better fast enough from a bad respiratory virus case and not count on it to go away on its own.  Antibiotics are effective and save lives if diagnosed early enough.  Most people dying from flu die from pneumonia that gets too advanced.   it's likely RSV that's created this complication . RSV vaccine is not mandatory.

Anyway, vast majority of kids are vaccinated, mine too and I am not worried.[b] I am still trying to find out why all of you are so worried given that I am pretty sure your kids are vaccinated?[/b] [/quote]

1. Children too young to be effectively vaccinated
- About 1.1% of the US population is <1 year old -- that's [b]3.74 million infants in the US[/b]
- https://www.americashealthrankings.org/explore/measures/pct_infant

2. People with genetic immunodeficiencies that prevent effective vaccination 
- About 4.5/10,000 of the US population has a primary immunodeficiency (primary B-cell immunodeficiency, primary T-cell immunodeficiency, complement deficiency, or PMN deficiency) -- that's [b]about 153,000 people in the US[/b]
- https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4009347/
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3. People on chemotherapy and other chronic medical disease treatment(e.g., autoimmune disorders) that suppresses their immune resistance to measles
- If you really want a deep dive on this and it would make a difference to someone's beliefs, I will calculate, but it's certainly in the millions

4. A single dose of measles vaccine confers about 95% protection, and two doses gets it to "over 99%"
- Even if the vaccine effectiveness is 99.9%, that's not 100%
- When you are talking about large numbers of people, that adds up -- [b]for 99.9% effectiveness, 0.1% of the US population is about 340,000 people across the US. If it's 99.5%, that would be about 1.7 million people[/b] across the US
- https://www.cdc.gov/pinkbook/hcp/table-of-contents/chapter-13-measles.html

You are talking about millions to tens of million vulnerable people across the country, even if every single person who can get vaccinated, does so. That is why herd immunity is important. [/quote]

This is a fantastic explanation from someone that knows science and the importance of herd immunity. Unfortunately, MAGAs won't understand. [/quote]

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