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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anyone here informed about “shedding”?[/quote] Viral shedding?[/quote] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X16300895 "There is no documented evidence of measles vaccine virus transmission." we may need this in capital letters for the nutjob that posted that prior comment. While yes, scant attenuated measles virus can be isolated from someone recently vaccinated for up to a few weeks after vaccination, with very high cycle times (meaning the lab equipment repeatedly looks for the virus and keeps cycling over and over again - the higher the cycle time, the less virus is present) "THERE IS NO DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF MEASLES VACCINE VIRUS TRANSMISSION" In other words, the verrrrrrry tiny bit of weakened vaccine derived virus shed by a person recently vaccinated does not actually lead to infection of others in the real world. [/quote] Shedding is a general term referring to the virion shedding from an infected host. The reason why this is an uncomfortable conversation is because it also refers to vaccinated people shedding the virus they are infected with with or without any symptoms. Vaccines can blunt the symptoms and make the infection milder but may not always prevent transmission. It's possible for people vaccinated against Measles to spread (e.g. shed measles virus) to others. They may not show characteristic symptoms. [/quote] Another reason for everyone to be vaccinated. You don't know when you're going to be around an asymptomatic infected person. [/quote] Nobody says you shouldn't be vaccinated, ugh, it's getting tedious with you people. But you cannot possibly enforce 100% vaccination and it was never done, unvaxxed communities existed and will exist. Freaking out about this right now is purely political propaganda. What is the end goal of this freak out? How will you ensure every baby is vaxxed? You cannot. [/quote] Generally, rates have declined and we have gotten more lenient with allowing exemptions; it is concerning to have an HHS leader who leans into the idea of vaccination as a "personal choice" specifically for measles for how contagious it is and how easily one unvaxxed symptomatic individual can impact young babies. We did actually used to be much more strict on the religious exemption front. I do not agree with a "personal choice" stance for measles vaccination. [/quote] DP to add, there was plenty of alarm, news articles, etc over the 2019 outbreak and we did not have a "personal choice" HHS leader back then. [/quote]
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