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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1. Take US News Top 50 2. Remove these 5: UC Davis, UC Irvine, UC Santa Barbara, Wisconsin, and Illinois 3. Insert these 5: BU, Northeastern, William and Mary, Wake Forest, Rochester There’s your top 50…[/quote] Remove Rutgers too which was ranked in the 60s, 70s every single year when things were sane[/quote] Rutgers is fine. As is UMD and Ohio State. [/quote] A little insulting to UMD to group it with those two schools, no?[/quote] I think that Georgia Tech should be insulted that Emory is ranked higher overall, making it the highest-ranked university in Atlanta. GT stands out as a truly elite engineering institution. It is ranked higher than any Ivy League school in engineering and graduates more engineers than all the Ivies combined. I will concede that Emory bests GT in graduating expensively educated students and likely provides a strong liberal arts education, but it's just a school. GT's impact in engineering and technology is unparalleled.[/quote] I don't understand your complaint. GT is a fairly one-dimensional school, so as expected it ranks very high in STEM disciplines, but falls off the map in liberal arts. This is no different than Carnegie Mellon often ranking top 5 in nearly every STEM discipline, but always taking it on the chin overall. I don't think anyone interested in STEM picks Emory just because it's overall ranking is better...except maybe on the pre-med STEM track.[/quote] [b]By that logic, Yale, Chicago, and Dartmouth are also very one dimensional schools. They do fine in liberal arts, but fall off the map in engineering and cs and other difficult majors.[/b] When it comes to rankings and such, there does seem to be an inherent bias against the more STEM schools - like Georgia Tech and CMU. I think it's because historically in America the higher classes looked down on those who studied science and engineering. Those were trades. And some of those biases continue. Yale has no business being a perennial top 5 school. Nor does Harvard. Given their resources, they are both very weak for STEM undergrad. Their high rankings are reflective of very antiquated biases. [/quote] Our definitions of "falling off the map" are different. These schools are definitely top 50 in those disciplines, and some top 20. GA Tech isn't even in the top 100 for some of these liberal arts/humanities fields.[/quote]
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