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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m disappointed.
It seems like Trump is already walking back all of his promises.
He’s not actually going to deport illegals.
He’s not going to lower grocery prices.
He isn’t even going to pardon all the J6 patriots.
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You are surprised a known serial liar lied? You're surprised a nepo baby billionaire who has never cared about anyone but himself doesn't care about his constituents or campaign promises?

"Don't call us morons, that's why we voted for Trump!" Scream morons who can't stop doing moronic things. [/quote]
 So here is how this shakes out:
MAGA voters 
A) will never hear about the facts of Trump’s second term from their hermetically sealed 
Conservative echo chamber. Fox News never covers it and in fact, Fox News will never mention immigration at all, and all of the Maga voters will believe it’s been solved.
B) the republicans will continue to malign the very institutions they now control as wasteful, dysfunctional, and corrupt. They will continue to be nihilistic turds for ( in most cases ) political gain and in other cases for ideological zealotry. And MAGA voters will continue to slide further down the toilet away from a belief in democracy. There is no expertise or competence. We as a country can’t conceive of doing big things. American exceptionalism is dead. And they will keep voting officials that tell them that. And then proving it. Rinse repeat. 
C) we become a fully pay to play kleptocracy. And the masses buy Trump perfume and never notice the they got nothing.

Happy Holidays! [/quote]

I think one of the reasons that the left is so out of touch is that they use a framework of the right that existed 10 years ago. Their insistence that Fox News is the main source of information is a great example of this. Republicans left cable News behind a long time ago.  So much, that if you answer that you get your News from cable, pollsters immediately identify you as being on the left.

The person here saying they are upset that Trump won't deport people, etc isn't on the right. I'm on the right, and I had never even HEARD the claim that Trump would free J6 prisoners until AFTER the election, when a Democratic relative brought it up. It wasn't a campaign promise. It was words that were, per usual, taken out of context and bandied about in the leftosphere to scare people. That person is most definitely a troll because no one on the right is really tracking this. And it would be a controversial point, because they shouldn't be given carte blanch pardons.

Similar for the border. The left breathlessly told everyone that Trump would not only deport illegals, but also all black people. I mean, what the...? That's just crazy.  He only promised to aggressively attempt to remove illegals, starting with the most dangerous ones (violent criminals).

The economy? Yeah, that remains to be seen.

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What are your expectations with regard to illegals?  Here on DCUM we heard Trump supporters insist, illegal is illegal, anyone who crossed the border illegally is a criminal, and that all of them have to go.  All of them.  We also heard Trump supporters insist that Haitians approved for asylum under previous administrations have to go, and particularly so because they are stealing cats and dogs and eating them.  And that means revoking their status of being in the US LEGALLY under asylum provisions.   We also heard you not having any problems with Vance's statements about denaturalizing citizens, immigrants who have been granted US citizenship.

Do you expect ALL of them to be deported, to include approved asylees and naturalized citizens?   Or just the illegal border crossers?  Do you expect the number of illegals in the US to go to zero?

Don't dance around the question, give us an actual answer.[/quote]

I think most of us normal, moderate people just want the border secured and the asylum laws changed so that unfortunate people aren't walking 500 miles to either sneak in or claim asylum at the border. Once that's done, deporting those that have committed crimes or do commit crimes makes sense but otherwise, only idiots are suggesting that everyone here without legal residency should be deported. We know we can't depend on Trump or Biden to handle this issue appropriately. Perhaps we'll get a real POTUS that can handle it in 2029.[/quote]

The border is more orderly now that there is an app for migrants to use to manage their application. Crossings are down to pre-2019 levels. If the GOP had bassed their bill last Spring, it wouldn;t be an issue at all now.

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You're wrong but I agree that the GOP in the Trump era aren't the folks to call on to fix a problem.[/quote]

nope, not wrong

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/border-crossings-dropped-lowest-level-biden-administration-september-rcna174574[/quote]

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