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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A plumber yesterday told me they charge $420 per hour.  I was shocked inflation drove plumbing service to $420 per hour!  Now how many college majors offer $420 per hour, even ten years post-graduation?   And the icing on the cake is AI will not replace residential plumbing maintenance jobs![/quote]

Earlier this week, I had a plumber snake a clogged kitchen sink drain - he charged $350 for 35 minutes of effort! [/quote]

yes, I got hit for $500 to fix my dishwasher drain. He was here for 45 minutes and is an independant (no overhead). I was bitter.  Its getting outrageous. But cant help but hit the panic switch when water is leaking.[/quote]

I recently had a plumber come to fix our shower steam unit.  He was probably in his 60s and very chatty.  He told me his company has been actively trying to find young apprentices to learn the trade for the past three years and in his words, "nobody wants to be a plumber anymore."

AI can't install bathroom fixtures, wire a house/building for electricity, install or fix HVAC units.  We need strong programs in schools or centers like this one that was very popular in the 1970s where I grew up:

https://www.tcdupage.org/apps/pages/DAOES

Students spend part of their school day attending classes there and focus on a career path.

Anyway - I have a DC graduating from a top 20 school this year who doesn't have a job yet.  But neither do most of DC's friends.  I'd say about 25% have a job.  It's a tough market for everyone.[/quote]

My BIL is an electrician, smart guy, hard working, but if you aren't the owner it's not a great living. Also, industry standard is only mandated benefits, no possibility of family coverage, etc. The fantasies that get spewed about trade jobs, based on sticker shock and chitchat are also bubble.[/quote]

At the very least, I would recommend pursuing a trade at a large company where you may at least have stable hours and benefits.  WSJ just ran an article about more kids looking at the trades and point out how large manufacturing companies need welders, electricians, etc., and also have apprentice programs.  [b]No mention of working for small companies serving residential.
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I guess this is the new DCUM anecdote...getting overcharged by a plumber or somebody and then thinking everyone must make that amount.[/quote]

+1 commercial work is where it's at. My wealthiest relative is an electrician - and now CEO of a large commercial electrical contracting company. [/quote]

I am PP...not even talking about this...mean going to work for Lockheed or an auto manufacturer as a welder or electrician or pipe fitter.  These jobs have apprenticeship programs and are paying well over $100k, especially if you consider overtime.  You work normal hours at a factory with good benefits and opportunities to advance into managerial operational roles, and they will pay for you to attend college if you want to "up" your skills.[/quote]

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