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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I mean, the life expectancy in the UK is way higher than the US. The results speak for themselves. Don’t confuse having a lot of healthcare with having good healthcare.[/quote]

Someone who doesn’t understand life expectancy, which is not a measure of health care… gun violence, suicide, drug overdose and efforts to save extremely premature babies all skew U.S. life expectancy down because these things kill young people.  With the exception of premature babies (although infant mortality is also on the rise), these are terrible problems for our society, but do not reflect the quality of our health care.  Also, we import millions of people from the Third World each year and despite our efforts and expenditures, these people do die earlier for a number of reasons.[/quote]

Beat me to it.

In addition, minority, specifically black people, specifically black women have very poor health outcomes that transcend income brackets and national borders.  Some of that is racism of different manifestations, but most of it is a result in (US led) advances that determine prior assumptions about all people being the same were wrong.  Clinical trials, health studies, etc simply didn’t include enough minorities under the assumption that everyone was the same in the inside.  We are just beginning to peel back that onion but it helps explain why US has certain poorer health outcomes.  We are the only advanced economy with such a diverse population.  NHS isn’t setting the world on fire with care of those of african descent.  There’s just not as many of them to skew the numbers.

So you have compounding problems, poor people receive worse care, minorities receive care not necessarily personalized for them, gun violence, drug abuse, efforts to save extremely premature births, and others factors that skew the life expectancy.

There’s not a 65 year old Brit alive who would prefer the NHS to Medicare,[b] nor is there an employed Brit who would prefer NHS to the PPO options the vast majority of employed Americans have access to[/b].

There are models of universal coverage that make sense… single payer just isn’t one of them.  [/quote]

That part isn’t true. Many employed Brits have private health insurance through their jobs and it is much much cheaper than health insurance here, and pretty similar in terms of what you get.

But who cares anyway? Why is this now a referendum on which is a better country to live in? OP isn’t becoming British, she’s just there for a short time and should try to find ways to enjoy herself - British life expectancy shouldn’t really come into it[/quote]

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