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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Trump 9-0.

Sorry. [/quote]

Might as well just crack open that case in the National Archives and set the Constitution on fire, since the words CLEARLY written on it apparently now mean absolutely nothing to SCOTUS.[/quote]

It’s actually quite the opposite but nice try. [/quote]

Opposite?  You're confused.  The Constitution LITERALLY refers to the Presidency as an OFFICE.  [/quote]

You keep saying this, but you are not reading it in the full context of the Constitution.  First, here is the 14th Amendment provision:

[i]"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."
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Pretty clear from that alone, given that it specifically names Senators and Representatives, and also specifically names "electors" of President and Vice President, that the President and Vice President were intentionally excluded.  Otherwise, why were they not named?  But if you want to take it a step further, then look at section 4 or Article II of the Constitution:

[i]"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
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That appears to speak of President and Vice President as not being "officers" of the United States, otherwise there would be no reason to name then specifically.  And it doesn't say "and all other" civil officers.

Also, the Constitution and amendments refer to Senators and Representatives as holding "office," so by your reasoning, they would be covered by the 14th Amendment, yet they are specifically names whereas the President and Vice President are not.
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It DOES NOT say they are not officers.  They are two SPECIFICALLY NAMED officers, after which it goes on to reference the rest of the officers of the United States more generically.

Furthermore, it then further reinforces it by saying "shall be removed from Office" which also clearly implies they are indeed officers.  The Office of the President is a formal office, held by an officer - that being the President.
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