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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]MIT also found out that tests were valuable predictors of success. That’s why their test optional experiment ended a couple of years ago.[/quote]

MIT [b]DECIDED[/b][u][i] that tests were valuable predictors of success. That’s why their test optional experiment ended a couple of years ago.

Fixed it for you! [/quote]

Read MIT's announcement on the change to make SATs/ACTs mandatory again. They found a strong correlation between scores and success. Same as the huge University of California study. [/quote]

[b]You completely misstate the findings of the UC study[/b]. Gaslighting people isn’t helpful. [/quote]
The UC study strongly recommended retaining the SAT as a very good predictor for student success. That recommendation was ignored. MIT also clearly explained their rationale. Not sure what the gaslighting comment refers to? I guess the truth hurts.[/quote]

Yes but did not say it was a strong correlation. It said it aided HSGPA and was slightly better than HSGPA in determining first year GPA but not retention rates or graduating GPA. It also said they were moderate predictors of GPA and weak predictors of retention and graduation.

Moreover the report did not touch upon using a minimum SAT score for admissions. The entire report assumed that UC would continue to renorm scores depending on socio economic background. The report also found that family income and parents educational status continued to be the strongest predictors of SAT scores.  The report believed the utility of having SAT scores was to provide extra assistance to those who need it and not to deny them admissions.

So to hold up the UC report as a data point for using minimum SAT scores in admissions is completely disingenuous. [/quote]

Read and learn!  But the Regents chose to ignore it.  https://www.applerouth.com/blog/2020/02/13/uc-faculty-issue-a-powerful-data-driven-defense-of-standardized-testing-in-college-admissions/[/quote]

I read the actual report not a cherry picked summary. I suggest you do the same. [/quote]
Dude, what are you even arguing about? People are saying SAT is an additional valid data point, same conclusion as UC and MIT. Not that it should replace grades or that there should be a minimum score (as you indicated earlier). [/quote]

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