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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Of course European women do more to appease men - no objecting, no strong opinions, go with the flow, be feminine and sexy. They live in societies where a woman’s wellbeing is based upon the support of a man. Women in America are as educated and make as much money as men. Women in America are not like foreign women bc they don’t have to be like them. American women can pay their own way and don’t need to rely on their looks and feminine demeanor to survive. These posts are exhausting. If foreign women are so great then go find one. As it turns out, the large majority of American men marry American women. So instead of wishing American women would change, how about embracing them for who they are and the strengths they bring to a relationship. [/quote] What you wrote is untrue. In former USSR women were socially, sexually and economically emancipated at least 30 years earlier than in the US. 4 generations of my female predecessors were working full time, were either equal earners or breadwinners in their families, and had nannies. At the same time my grandmother taught me to cook and to tailor dresses. It’s just a culture to be feminine out there, and maintain gender roles. Average education level was also higher (and free) than in the US. You are comparing average American women to highly educated women who moved to DC area from abroad (on scholarship, thanks to parental money etc). These are apples vs oranges. An average American born woman who lives in dmv has totally different (and often lower social level upbringing). [b]Professional American men in dmv are hunting for successful foreign born women for a reason.[/b] It’s a way for them to “upgrade” to a higher social level partner- both in looks, demeanor and education. [/quote] Insofar as this happens— and statistically it’s at vanishingly small levels—it’s because they’re not successful with successful American women. Typically because the kind of person who does this is already divorced, given the wide majority of successful American men are married to highly educated American women. Northern/Western European women aren’t trampling down the doors for American women’s rejects. [/quote] NP. What makes you think guys seeking foreign women are being rejected by American women? If given the choice, very few American men would choose American women over foreign women. Most Americans don't speak a foreign language and don't have the resources or income to live in another country. The problem is that unless you live in a foreign country, it's a logistical nightmare to date someone from another country. And your options for dating a foreign born woman if you live in the US is very limited. [/quote] Because it’s accessible information. The overwhelming majority of American men marry American women. Assortive mating— another well documented phenomenon— indicates they will marry women of similar education and socioeconomic status. And someone who wants to marry a foreign woman but has no interest in learning a second language is just a creep. Creeps aren’t attractive to anyone.[/quote] Let’s say, a foreign born woman works at Fortune500 company. She’s thin, makes $300k, maintained her youthful looks throughout life and has several grad degrees. She speaks with an accent but it didn’t prevent her from achieving the same career milestones as her US born colleagues at the same company. Why would any American man dating her need to learn her language ? Why would he be considered a reject that none of her US born colleagues wanted ? Her family back home is educated - grad degree in each generation in hard science. Why do you think her socioeconomic status below native speaking colleagues whose moms&dads on average didn’t have a grad degree? Again, we are discussing all being equal here. [/quote] Excellent points! But I still want to learn a lot about her culture, and some of her language. It's why I'm studying <south Asian language> now. [/quote]
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