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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I still don't understand why this tread is still going on.

The summer swim season is so short. Are you really going to have a kid who was 8 at the start of the season and swam time trials as an 8 year old have to swim 50s for maybe the last 2-3 weeks of the season if they have an early July birthday? How does that even make sense?

The year round swim season is longer so I get that their policy is you age up on the day of your birthday. There aren't time trials and a ladder involved. As a team rep, I can't get my head around how we would handle a kid aging up in the middle of the season and needing new times.

Also one of my kids has the "perfect summer swim birthday" and it really hasn't given my kid a huge advantage because my child is already small for their age. Its not this magical advangate everyone seems to think it is. And with a two year age group, things even out every other year. This thread is seriously making my head hurt! Get over it![/quote]

If the cut-off date changed from June 1 to August 1 next year, you'd immediately see how much of an advantage it was for the kids who aged up by two years.  Say the average 10 year old is improving by 3 seconds a year.  If they age up by two years next year, they'd need to improve by 6 seconds next year just to keep up.  Otherwise they'd fall 3 seconds behind the pack, which might not seem like much now but add 3 seconds to every event for an average 10 year old and see how many places that costs them every week.[/quote]

What are you talking about? There would still be a whole bunch of August, September, and October kids swimming.

I have one kid who has a really “bad” birthday for summer swim and one kid who has a “good” birthday for summer swim.

I also know a kid who has a really bad soccer birthday (December) and a kid who has a really good soccer birthday (January).

I can name lots of other sports where this is the case.

It’s the nature of team sports.

I get that you want your child to have an advantage, but you really just have to accept that in this case, your child doesn’t.

I actually think the only people who would complain would be club swim parents. They expect their kid to beat everyone and when they don’t, they have to blame it on something. Summer-only swim parents - swim isn’t their thing - so they don’t care so much about it.

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If there’s one thing that I’ve learned about the summer swim threads is that the summer only parents are super invested in it. They complain that the club kids are part of it, think [b]there are conspiracies whereby coaches favor the club kids[/b], etc. The good club kids, especially when you get into the 11-12 group and above, are beating everyone. Sure, they have competition with each other, but they also compete against each other all year long. Club kids and parents also get that sometimes you are on the top of age group and sometimes the bottom, some birthdays are “better”, etc. and already used to rolling with it. [/quote]

This part is definitely true.  How would it look for a club coach's recruiting effort if a kid who played other sports all winter won the high point award of his club swimmer?  
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And there you have it. Summer only parents don’t care at all :roll: [/quote]

DP.  Obviously! But the parents who pay for 5 day a week club swimming with said coach, sure as heck do.  If their kid doesn’t get the trophy they start to question wtf they’re doing.

I am a parent of fast swimmer who only competes in the summer now, but still beats the kids whose parents are hustling them to 4:30 AM practice all year, and making them do doubles all summer!  Coach 100% favors his club swimmers. Not a conspiracy. Documented fact.[/quote]

We pay for club swimming and I only care my child slowly improves and enjoys it.  They are slower club kids but I don’t care.  They are not going to swim in college. [/quote]

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