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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'll elaborate.  A lot of it comes down to religious freedom.   If "marriage" can be expanded, the worry is how does that affect churches that don't believe marriage is possible other than between a man and a woman?  Is the govt going to make catholic charities allow gay adoptions?  Are they going to make them offer gay couples marriage housing at catholic universities?  Are they going to make priests officiate at gay marriages?  The separation of church and state is not as absolute as many as you think and would like.

Civil unions are fine, the issue is calling it "marriage".[/quote]

This is a tired old argument.  No one is saying that a gay couple can come into your church and you have to marry them.  Gay marriage means that a couple who DOES find an open-minded church that wants to marry them, get to be as married as anybody else.

Your church is still free to be as bigoted as it wants.

If catholic charities and catholic universities are not churches, then yes, they are subject to the same laws about discrimination in housing as anybody else.  Rather than rehash this, do a search on dcurbanmom.com and birth control +catholic.[/quote]

Not the pp, but I will say this. You're fooling yourself if you believe that churches won't be forced to marry gay couples if gay marriage is made legal on a federal level. I can just see the lawsuits coming from gay people who were denied their personal freedom to marry at a church.

And again, just because a person has viewpoints that are different from your own does not make them bigoted. It makes them different. Please grow up and realize that we all don't have to think and/or feel the same to get along and have respect for one another. [/quote]

Doubtful - "the church" whatever that is - I'm sure you know there are about a ZILLION of these things, wouldn't marry my brother and sister-in-law because of their interfaith beliefs.  They had to go to another "the church" -

WHA????  There are more then one?  Gasp![/quote]

Your post is damn near incoherent (too emotional, perhaps?). Please calm down and try again. [/quote]

Emotion on this topic?  Surely you jest - let me see if I can find people whose rights you are denying and tell them to calm down.  I'm someone who things this is exactly the type of thing to get emotional about.  I'll tell you that you can't visit your child in the hospital because you don't have the same rights as me and see how "calm" you take it.[/quote]

Whose rights am I denying? When have I voted to ban gay marriage? Yeah, you didn't need to chill out.

I've done the same thing that you've done re: gay marriage. Nothing, because I have never voted on the issue. So, if I am denying rights to someone based on my (in)actions, so are you. 
Are you able to discuss this issue without exaggeration?[/quote]

Honey, you need to realize you are arguing with multiple people - not just one.  You do understand how a forum and the internet works right?[/quote]

How does your post change the fact that this person probably has not (like me) participated in a vote re: gay marriage. In essence, what is your point (in your attempt to look witty, I think you lost it)?[/quote]

How do you know what she does?  How do you know that she didn't work in DC hard to lobby the City Council to allow marraige to be a right for homosexual partners?  How do you know she doesn't work for the Human Right Campaign and lobbies on behalf of people for equal rights?  Just because YOU are not active in voting or equal rights, doesn't mean that most people are not.  In fact, most people I know are very active in equal rights for all.

You may want to step outside your shell - try a little "give a shit" and care about those other then yourself.[/quote]

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