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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Does anyone know what actually happened?

It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone.  But is that what happened?[/quote]

The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.[/quote]

Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic?  Where was the dad?  The the truck stop at the stop sign?  [/quote]

She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?

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You are looking at it backward. Roads ARE dangerous for kids particularly in the city. Parents must therefore exercise high caution for their kids. This is tragic but in my view this kid was not old enough to be biking around on city streets. When my kids started biking we did not let them near the main parkway by us that has sideways yet multiple side streets that must be crossed. That was a later skill we worked on. Not at 5. [/quote]

Kids should be able to bike and walk where they live. Kids should be able to bike, scoot, and walk across a crosswalk with a stop sign. Kids should not have to only be transported in cars.[/quote]
This is so weird to me. Kids bike and scoot and walk all over this city. Yes, we can and should make streets safer but we hardly live in a dystopian city with no safe sidewalks or places for kids to play. [/quote]

Have you actually been out there?  From what I have seen and experienced lately, drivers in the DC area have gotten a LOT worse, a LOT more aggressive, and a LOT more lawless in the last 3 years.[/quote]

It has definitely gotten worse. Sooner or later, MPD is going to have to do an enforcement blitz and put a lot of drivers in jail. Absent that, the trajectory is terrifying.[/quote]

This. I was in NYC recently and honestly NY drivers are better. DC drivers are among the worst in the country. They know they won't get pulled over ever, they know they can just not pay tickets and nothing happens. It's a free for all.

It's a culture where people will actually argue about whether not fully stopping at a stop sign behind the line should be subject to legal enforcement, trying to make excuses for rolling through a stop sign, as evidenced by some of the ridiculous posts on this forum.[/quote]

I’ve driven in all but two of the lower 48 in the past few years and nowhere is as bad as the DMV. The next worst were the LA freeways (people drive fast, but at least they know how to drive) and I-5 around Seattle. Even FL is nowhere near as bad. The difference between the DMV and places like New England is night and day.[/quote]

In 2020, DC ranked 31st out of 51 for pedestrian deaths.

Maryland is 15th and Virginia is 35th.

[url]https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/States/StatesPedestrians.aspx[/url][/quote]

So as a city compared to state rather than cities, that's pretty awful actually. And our closest state is also pretty awful, no surprise considering majority of fines from traffic cams are MD drivers barreling through our city without repercussions. This basically supports the assertion that DC has awful drivers. If you click on the New York (city) subdivision within NY, it's the same number of pedestrian deaths as DC (10) though NYC is vastly more populated than DC.

So in conclusion, drivers in DC are awful.[/quote]

It's adjusted per 100K residents, numb nut. [/quote]

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