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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most “perfect”/stellar applicants have cheated in academics, athletics, or both. And often with the help of their parents.[/quote]

I don't think cheating is any more rampant in this cohort than most others. Maybe not the low achievers who DGAF.[/quote]

Cheated?  How?[/quote]

On tests, assignments, papers,  by bringing alcohol to parties to lobby for votes for leadership roles, in sports… I mean there are tons of opportunities.  Especially during Covid.  Plenty of parents did their kids tests and papers.  Lots of high pressure families seized the opportunity to get a leg  up on competitive admissions.  Now their kids are at Harvard, Yale, Duke, UVA, Michigan and the like where they’ll continue to cheat to get ahead then cheat in their careers and take advantage of others. Cycle of American life. [/quote]

DP. IMHO no harm done unless the cheater comes out truly incompetent in some critical field like medicine.
But it doesn’t matter whether Joe or Jill get a fancy degree in marketing. In the overall order of things. [/quote]

No harm done? How about the kids who didn't cheat and didn't get a spot. The laissez-faire attitude towards cheating by some on this board is a sad indicator for society. Who cares if my unethical behavior hurts other kids as long as mine gets ahead? This feels almost Trumpian.[/quote]

Thank you.  So sick of the cheat to win, me, me, me - attitude. [/quote]

That comes from fear.  The cheaters are so afraid their kids can’t succeed. Have a little faith that you raised your kid well and they can get a good education anywhere and succeed.  Maybe I am able to not get in a frenzy over “top” schools because DH and I attended mediocre schools but worked hard and scrapped our way up.  We have held great positions and make a top 2% income.  You don’t need “top” schools to get there, just intelligence, hard work, a good strategy, and continual growth.[/quote]

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