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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For those not familiar with Ellyn Satter‘s DOR here is a link to handouts aimed at early child educators:

https://www.montana.edu/teamnutrition/smartpleasantmealtimes/Pass%20the%20Peaches%20Handouts%20Fall%202016.pdf

Yes for me it’s worth finding a preschool already familiar with these principles. [/quote]

Sure, we've all heard of Ellyn Satter.  But to say that she is "evidence based" or the only way correct way to have a meal.  [/quote]

Im confused, I read Ellyn Satter and she doesn't suggest anywhere that you should get kids to eat health foods by disguising them as dessert.  That's pretty much the opposite of Ellyn Satter.  [/quote]

[b]Ellen Satter supports serving dessert[/b] (if there is one, one portion only) to be served with the meal. It can be eaten at any time. 
https://www.ellynsatterinstitute.org/how-to-eat/family-meals-and-snacks/

She definitely would not agree with pressuring kids to eat foods arbitrarily deemed „healthy“ in order to eat other foods (arbitrarily in this case deemed dessert) [/quote]

Yes. She puts "cookies" and "baked dessert bars" into the "sweets & extras" box. She does NOT rename them "baked oatmeal" and set up little shrines to them.[/quote]

I think you are missing the point that they are supposed to be served [b]WITH[/b] the meal and the child can eat the dessert [b]at any time[/b] during the meal first or last doesn’t matter. 
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I'm pretty sure you missed two things: nobody signed on to Ellen Satter who wasn't already on board at the start of this thread, and -- also -- you misrepresented part of her teachings.

So why should I follow your food deity when you can't even get the holy writ correct?[/quote]

1st she‘s not my food deity. Her work however has been validated and there is an evidence base behind it. That is why I’m learning about it so I can apply those principles to my child.

Second I’m not the one who started the baked oatmeal thing. I have no idea whether op intended the oats and banana thing to be considered dessert or not.

The teacher should have let the kid eat her food in whatever order the kid wanted.  Saying that Ellen satter would support that is not a misrepresentation.  [/quote]

I will add that I learned about satter‘s work from early childhood educators. I was skeptical first but beacause I do actually respect the professional knowledge of such people I investigated did some pubmed searches and came to the conclusion that they were correct.  I am happy to learn from preschool teachers and other early childhood experts. But when a teacher has an incorrect approach as in this case, I would speak up about it and push back. [/quote]

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