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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This guy clearly envied the victim’s life. Perhaps he wanted to work with Glyer. My guess is that victim was polite but got weirded out and distanced himself from shooter. That’s likely when the obsessing and anger kicked in.  I don’t think victim did anything wrong, just got into the crosshairs of a mentally ill  person with a gun. The question is whether the shooter was diagnosed and if any laws could have prevented this. I don’t think so. If there’s no formal diagnosis, [b]any proposed law wouldn’t have stopped this[/b]. This is why preventing mentally I’ll from purchasing firearms is difficult. Most are likely undiagnosed even if the average person can see it.[/quote]

That's not true -- red flag laws generally don't require a formal diagnosis or prior conviction.  A family member, employer or health care professional that is concerned can request a red flag and it will trigger further inquiry.  In a lot of these cases, the family members are very well aware of the issues, but don't have any real way to control the individual.  The purpose of the red flag law is to set a lower bar for removal of firearms than exists for criminal convictions or civil commitments.  (Which totally makes sense -- a lower bar to deprive them of firearms than to deprive them of liberty entirely.)  
There are also other laws that are under consideration in other states that would make a difference where someone is plainly mentally ill -- things like a training course, an interview, etc., that could reveal that someone is not rational.  Geez, to be a GS leader I need two references who will talk on the phone to GS to say I'm not crazy and can be trusted with kids --- but apparently I could get a gun without anyone talking to anyone!

It's tragic on so many levels -- it does seem very likely it was a mental health issue, and there is no world in which this man should have had a gun.  
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